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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/9800/christmas-clear-out</link><description> Anybody else seeing a large rise in animals being presented for PTS with the owners already committed to PTS, no attempt to investigate or trial treatment and no attempt to persuade them otherwise makes much difference? Sign of the times or people getting</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49352?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:44:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c4b5b539-217f-4a01-9ed9-6f2c7e087f6c</guid><dc:creator>Laurence Webb</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Hannah Wynne Richards&amp;quot;]carpenters making coffins,and branching out[/quote]That wood make sense.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49346?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:17:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3492b34f-4796-469e-adff-4517fa38efde</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s awfulRichard Where in the country are you ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49345?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:09:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:1426f85c-8c00-452b-80b7-4b17269a7975</guid><dc:creator>Richard Carter</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Well we had to have a second collection during the week which I don&amp;#39;t recall happening before. What is more surprising are the owners who ask for pts without any sort of attempt at treatment - we are talking mild arthritis, early heart failure and from owners who have previously had pets who did get some palliative care for their old age conditions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49341?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:34:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:77296408-4670-49e5-ba2e-bc8fb55bba62</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;David Mills&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most human funerals are in actually in January as people &amp;#39;hang on&amp;#39; for Christmas, which is nice. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My mother in law used to get ill every Christmas to the extent that we joked about booking her hospital bed for Christmas day and we began to be quite cynical about it as it appeared to be attention seeking. Finally, last year, she got the last laugh and died on Christmas day. Mrs A and her sister took it philosophically though and said that at least they wouldn&amp;#39;t have to ruin Christmas this year having to visit her! &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/devil.png" alt="Mischievous" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS they did put her on ice until&amp;nbsp;January&amp;nbsp;though!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49319?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:22:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b047b95b-42d2-4e2d-9c57-a06c865dd936</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It could be carpenters making coffins,and branching out into undertaking &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49308?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:15:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b2733cbb-704a-4beb-8fc7-a17b2da0eb0b</guid><dc:creator>plantagenet</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I couldn&amp;#39;t get the information out of the computer, so I had a quick look through the dangerous drug register and we do seem to have an increase in entries for Euthatal&amp;nbsp; in December and January.&amp;nbsp; I don&amp;#39;t think more animals become seriously ill at this time of year like humans, I think it is a decision not to risk the death happening amidst the Turkey and crackers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have had two building firms who were builders during the summer and undertakers during the winter, each job making use of the low season for the other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49302?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:43:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:daf1f5eb-5f9d-4464-9222-8d797d64729c</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;J G Wray&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Richard Carter&amp;quot;]Anybody else seeing a large rise in animals&amp;nbsp;being presented for PTS with the owners already committed to PTS, no attempt&amp;nbsp;to investigate or trial&amp;nbsp;treatment and no attempt to persuade them otherwise makes much difference? Sign of the times or people getting ready for their Christmas holidays?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go to your PMS. Run a report on sale of service &amp;quot;euthanasia&amp;quot; including dates and species for, say, last five years&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Export to Excel/Access/whatever and plot a graph over time. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our conclusion - no seasonality, all perception.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JGW&lt;/p&gt;
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[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very interesting exercise! Illustrates the vast difference between what we believe - as subjective human beings - and reality.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49297?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:23:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:4096ea8e-7f90-480f-9b81-b2a1a95b73fa</guid><dc:creator>Tanya Fielding</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I feel we have had more PTS but felt it was due to financial restraints rather then Christmas just yet. I do also tend to put more arthritic ones down now as they do not cope so well with autumn and winter weather, yes I do try and get them on nsaids but not everyone will take your advice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49258?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:17:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:1f4d7b9c-985f-44c4-9970-f08922764f42</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;J G Wray&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Richard Carter&amp;quot;]Anybody else seeing a large rise in animals&amp;nbsp;being presented for PTS with the owners already committed to PTS, no attempt&amp;nbsp;to investigate or trial&amp;nbsp;treatment and no attempt to persuade them otherwise makes much difference? Sign of the times or people getting ready for their Christmas holidays?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go to your PMS. Run a report on sale of service &amp;quot;euthanasia&amp;quot; including dates and species for, say, last five years&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Export to Excel/Access/whatever and plot a graph over time. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our conclusion - no seasonality, all perception.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JGW&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i tend to agree with this. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is just a time of year when emotions are running a bit higher. In addition some worry because it is the longest period of the year where vets are generally open for emergencies only so I think this concentrates the mind a bit!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49234?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:19:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0ea7cc3c-dde5-4907-8544-c9aa92742ea7</guid><dc:creator>J G Wray</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Richard Carter&amp;quot;]Anybody else seeing a large rise in animals&amp;nbsp;being presented for PTS with the owners already committed to PTS, no attempt&amp;nbsp;to investigate or trial&amp;nbsp;treatment and no attempt to persuade them otherwise makes much difference? Sign of the times or people getting ready for their Christmas holidays?[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go to your PMS. Run a report on sale of service &amp;quot;euthanasia&amp;quot; including dates and species for, say, last five years&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Export to Excel/Access/whatever and plot a graph over time. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our conclusion - no seasonality, all perception.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JGW&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49229?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:40:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c42534eb-2d05-4ef8-a547-76dd4c9d5d58</guid><dc:creator>Stephen Courtney</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I didn&amp;#39;t think it had started yet, haven&amp;#39;t noticed any particular increase so far.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49228?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:36:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:6fa5bbe5-5115-4373-b88a-871836819444</guid><dc:creator>Noweia</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes.&amp;nbsp; Ours has been going on for about 6-7 weeks now, though seems to be slowing now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49222?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:31:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:87bfd19a-bf5c-4db5-8587-9c93d192628a</guid><dc:creator>David Mills</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Most human funerals are in actually in January as people &amp;#39;hang on&amp;#39; for Christmas, which is nice. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Always a big clear out for Xmas - old incontinent arthritic thinsg and owners who&amp;#39;ve been managing manfully through the year don&amp;#39;t want excreta all over the house when the relatives come to stay. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49123?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:17:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ab34f5ba-f74b-46f2-b196-0643ba176028</guid><dc:creator>Mark Holmes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Every one down is one less to spoil christmas lunch and you might even get a bottle of whisky from the local crem service if lucky.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt; I did get a bottle a couple of years ago and wasn&amp;#39;t sure if it constituted a conflict of interest&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49115?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 10:42:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:27a201b1-3e0b-42ac-b47f-2fd2a5e0810c</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Luckily not happened here My sympathies&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Christmas clear-out</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/49113?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 10:40:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:8a1000d5-2015-47c2-b9c8-84a32b5203e3</guid><dc:creator>plantagenet</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;There always is a peak before&amp;nbsp; - desperate not to have it die on Christmas day - and just after - just struggled through Christmas, but probably shouldn&amp;#39;t have.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I haven&amp;#39;t seen and increase yet this year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>