All those magazines!

Re: All those magazines!

Arlo Guthrie — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:10:57 GMT

[quote user="Niall Taylor"]Sounds good although you would also need lead author's surname + journal + volume + page to give you a meaningful reference that can be searched for - or is that too much information?[/quote]

Sorry, I meant to say that this info would be included in the summary. Yes, absolutely essential.

Re: All those magazines!

Niall Taylor — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:00:52 GMT

[quote user="Arlo Guthrie"]

Well, I'm thinking that the best format for this would be as a multi-contributor blog, like this one: http://www.vetsurgeon.org/blogs/chronic-pain/default.aspx

You'd supply me with your spreadsheet, Niall, and I would upload an entry for each one:

Title: Title of paper
Date: Date of publication
Main entry: Summary and link where available

Then tagged according to equine/farm/companion animal, species, condition, drug

Once Niall's entrys are all online, then everyone, including Niall, can then add additional papers, in that format, as they see fit.

Er, what do you think? Is that a good format for this?

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Sounds good although you would also need lead author's surname + journal + volume + page to give you a meaningful reference that can be searched for - or is that too much information?

I'll tidy up the spreadsheet and take out some of the more obviously out of date ones and forward it to you - can I do that as a PM? If not perhaps you could mail me with your email address.

I think this is an excellent idea and if it isn't too tricky to use I might start to use it instead of my beloved spreadsheet!

Cheers,

Niall

Re: All those magazines!

Niall Taylor — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:44:51 GMT

[quote user="James Laidlaw"] Niall, did you have your MMR vaccine recently?[/quote]

Yes indeed, and I always ask for extra thiomersal with mine

Niall

Re: All those magazines!

Arlo Guthrie — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:33:35 GMT

Well, I'm thinking that the best format for this would be as a multi-contributor blog, like this one: http://www.vetsurgeon.org/blogs/chronic-pain/default.aspx

You'd supply me with your spreadsheet, Niall, and I would upload an entry for each one:

Title: Title of paper
Date: Date of publication
Main entry: Summary and link where available

Then tagged according to equine/farm/companion animal, species, condition, drug

Once Niall's entrys are all online, then everyone, including Niall, can then add additional papers, in that format, as they see fit.

Er, what do you think? Is that a good format for this?

Re: All those magazines!

James Laidlaw — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:27:45 GMT

[quote user="Niall Taylor"]

[quote user="alex gough"]

That's borderline autistic behaviour, Niall. Does anyone else feel that if they have photocopied an article, that is pretty much as good as having read it?

Alex[/quote]

Oh, I'm nothing if not obsessive - problem is, it's about all the wrong things!

Niall

[/quote] Niall, did you have your MMR vaccine recently?

Re: All those magazines!

Niall Taylor — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:58:39 GMT

On looking at the spreadsheet I use as a database of articles I see there are 223 listed, some of which are, to quote JR Hartley, "rather old". Others are right up to date (eg the excellent summary of anticoagulant poisoning in Vet Practice this month).

If people would find it helpful, I'm happy to make it available to all and sundry. Arlo, what would be the next step?

Cheers,

Niall

Re: All those magazines!

Charlotte Marshall — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:58:56 GMT

I do try and read them all but not as thoroughly as I used to nowadays I must say. When you have a grand total of 6 magazines turn up in 2 days as I did last week you tend to loose enthusiasm rapidly!

I have a filing cabinet full of articles I have kept over the years but it is getting a bit squashed as it has not been weeded out at all. There are probably articles in there which are 10 years old and not really relevant any more. I am trying to keep relevant ones now as pdfs or just references which is probably a bit more searchable though I have not been nearly as organised as Niall. An easy reference section on here could be pretty useful.

Re: All those magazines!

Alex Gough — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:50:13 GMT

[quote user="Neil Wheadon"]I read these Alex, thanks [/quote]

Good to know someone does!

Re: All those magazines!

Jenny Smith — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:04:09 GMT

I have a couple of lever arches full already, and I've only been out of uni 3 months!!! I've found having pdf versions of really useful things (like my course notes) on my phone for quick reference is useful, but that's getting full too. An online resource with it all in one place would be great, even on the go, as most smartphones have net access now, as do most consult room computers!

Jenny

Re: All those magazines!

Neil Wheadon — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:17:47 GMT

[quote user="alex gough"]

What we really need is someone to write a regular column in say, Vet Times, summarising the latest research for practitioners. But it does sound like a tedious job for some poor sap...

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I read these Alex, thanks

I think having an indexed file in a public area with links to articles on the web would be tremendously useful. We often want information quickly and having a central resource reference for 'that article I saw in Vet Times in ...what was it March?' would be grand

I have 7 lever arched files full of articles under skin, orthopaedic etc headings. The hassle is carrying them about and updating them

Re: All those magazines!

Niall Taylor — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:46:35 GMT

[quote user="alex gough"]

That's borderline autistic behaviour, Niall. Does anyone else feel that if they have photocopied an article, that is pretty much as good as having read it?

Alex[/quote]

Oh, I'm nothing if not obsessive - problem is, it's about all the wrong things!

Niall

Re: All those magazines!

KathW — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:12:11 GMT

Sounds to be just what I need to order my thoughts and "finds" and to tap into everyone elses as well. Great idea!

Actually a bit like the client file I have at work called "doses" where I do note down new drugs/dosages + uses as an aide memoire but that isn't searchable and just has notes about drugs.

Re: All those magazines!

Mark Hedberg — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:14:29 GMT

Sounds fun, I'd be up for it!

Re: All those magazines!

Arlo Guthrie — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:54:38 GMT

[quote user="alex gough"]What we really need is someone to write a regular column in say, Vet Times, summarising the latest research for practitioners. But it does sound like a tedious job for some poor sap...

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I've thought of another idea. How about I set up a new collaborative blog where anyone who sees an interesting piece of research can post a short summary + link, and categorise according to species.

i.e. Niall, post the contents of your spreadsheet here, for your own benefit and others. And if everyone contributes say, one thing they've spotted a year, which would take what, five minutes, we'd have a mighty fine resource in no time at all.

Re: All those magazines!

Alex Gough — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:08:54 GMT

What we really need is someone to write a regular column in say, Vet Times, summarising the latest research for practitioners. But it does sound like a tedious job for some poor sap...

Re: All those magazines!

Julian Earl — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:58:28 GMT

I tear out articles and file them under headings that are clinically relevant, lameness for example and not a plethora of specific leg disorders. Trouble then becomes deciding which is best, the 2000 article (say) or the more recent book? And how long do you keep them for anyway? I'm pretty sure I still have In Practice articles from the days when it was a new magazine - not sure how relevant or useful they are now.

On the whole though, I find it a relief when I go through Vet Times or In Practice or the like and am able to discard all the papers as not relevant to my work. Saves a lot of time for other things!

Re: All those magazines!

Mark Holmes — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:42:30 GMT

They may mock Nial but if you posted a copy of your excel file I bet they would download a copy. It sounds like a good idea but I think I would manage about 3 lines before it got forgotten.

Re: All those magazines!

Bob Russell — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:27:48 GMT

[quote user="alex gough"]

[quote user="Niall Taylor"]

What I do is skim them and any articles which I think might be interesting I add to an excel based index, putting a load of key words in the last cell. The journals are then all filed chronologically so, years later, when I can vaguely recall an article I do a ctrl-F to search this spread sheet, go back to my library files and hey presto, there you are! Really useful articles I will either scan or download an online copy to keep on hard disc.

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That's borderline autistic behaviour, Niall. Does anyone else feel that if they have photocopied an article, that is pretty much as good as having read it?

Alex

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I am now seriously worried. Medical advice for Mr Taylor any one? I find loading the bin for recycling hard enough without logging it onto a computer first!

Re: All those magazines!

Alex Gough — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:49:47 GMT

[quote user="Niall Taylor"]

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That's borderline autistic behaviour, Niall. Does anyone else feel that if they have photocopied an article, that is pretty much as good as having read it?

Alex

Re: All those magazines!

Niall Taylor — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 07:30:28 GMT

[quote user="KathW"]

Does anyone manage to read the seemingly endless stream of vet magazines? I try to keep up then life gets busy and I put them to one side and when I look again they've been breeding in the corner and the pile is huge. I then flick through and try to catch up and end up finfing the odd interesting article I feel I should read but am too tired at the time.......and so it goes on.

What do others do? It's easier now we can access old In Practice etc on line as I don't then feel I need to keep all the old ones just incase I want to refer back - if I could remember where I read that really useful article.

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I don't think there is any way I could read every single publication - there is just way too much information around these days; when you include all the business, marketing and financial stuff it is a completely impossible task.

Having stuff online is useful and pub-med will find most things but you won't find any of the 'popular' papers in it and there are some useful practitioner tip type articles in publications such as Veterinary Practice and Vet Times which you would miss that way (the 2000 cherry eye article I have just posted on the cherry eye thread for example). Also not all the individual journals' online archives are complete - many don't go that far back and some (vet times for example) seem to have articles missing.

Cheers,

Niall