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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/8180/i-shouldn-t-really-have-done-it-but-felt-better</link><description> Today a client phoned to ask a question. 
 
I was rather busy catheterising a 5 wo male Bulldog puppy with urinary tract 
obstruction and a marked crystalluria - a 4F Jackson cat catheter does the job, 
by the way. 
 
I will not be writing this</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37327?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 13:17:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:8807afa1-64d6-481b-9fe1-16bcbc0a84c6</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Sadly when I was asked about Devils Claw I was bored enough to look it up and even more sad there seems to be evidence that it is &amp;#39;more effective&amp;#39; in man than a placebo as an anti-inflammatory perhaps an opening for Devils Claw-O-Vet. I spent five minutes of my one and only life discussing this with the owner. He seemed to know the dose which is more than I did at the time. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not sure if it helped the dog as this would have &amp;#39;wasted&amp;#39; another five valuable minutes of my life making a phone call. I am sure I will find out when the dog comes in for vaccination!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(As you get older you start worrying about the numbers of five minutes left to you - that wastes another five minutes!).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edit - time not wasted! - five minutes CPD!&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37324?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 12:01:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e4560b6d-efac-4473-9320-88a9c8b8feae</guid><dc:creator>J G Wray</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Hannah Wynne Richards&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Alternative approaches Jonathan could have been:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not allowed toadvocate unlicensed medicines&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is this true? I use unlicensed products in a therapeutic context all the time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Hannah Wynne Richards&amp;quot;]that is a clinical consultation, so I&amp;#39;ll talk toyou after you&amp;#39;ve paid a consultation fee (followed later by i&amp;#39;m not allowed to advise unlicensed medicines )[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I were Mr Meacock or Mr Elliot I could charge for the consult &lt;i&gt;and &lt;/i&gt;advise on the Devil&amp;#39;s claw. Perhaps I should have stopped what I was doing and looked up and supplied their weekend contact details.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wanted to say &amp;quot; **** off I&amp;#39;m busy.&amp;quot; I suppose my inappropriate comments will come back and haunt me at some point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JGW&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37323?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 11:58:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c0eaae7b-4199-4a80-a192-c87cdc588803</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;20-50mg of the standardised harpagoside. I cannot believe this is not indelibly imprinted on your brain from &amp;#39;pretty flower&amp;#39; lectures at college. Actually Devils Claw is a very uninspiring and ugly plant.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37318?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 09:50:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:27a529bd-53b3-4106-be60-3d0bb251c458</guid><dc:creator>Clive Ansell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yet another approach would be &amp;quot;go and seek advice from the supplier or manufacturer&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37316?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 09:31:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:28fd991f-c263-4bdb-a453-ee18a3913924</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Alternative approaches Jonathan could have been:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not allowed toadvocate unlicensed medicines&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that is a clinical consultation, so I&amp;#39;ll talk toyou after you&amp;#39;ve paid a consultation fee (followed later by i&amp;#39;m not allowed to advise unlicensed medicines )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37299?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 18:02:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:5bf7d6fd-e122-4592-a99c-b99480fbfcea</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Clapping_hands.png" alt="Applause" /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pah, fine blinkin&amp;#39; vet he is.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37287?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 09:35:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d750be30-16fc-4128-8920-0b65ceb6e8d1</guid><dc:creator>Gillian Mostyn</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Thumbs_up.png" alt="Thumbs up" /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37286?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 09:06:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2d73ee5b-32cd-4da0-b3d2-f7e0e3f65804</guid><dc:creator>Richard Fox</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I am afraid I have to &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Thumbs_up.png" alt="Thumbs up" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37285?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 08:36:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0a8eb831-fcc4-4284-a5ae-2e62def31130</guid><dc:creator>jamie winstone</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr Wray,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the sort of attitude that the RCVS gets shirty about. Expect a letter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jamie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I shouldn't really have done it but felt better</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/37283?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 23:12:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:287d8399-c275-4c34-b5d5-e3f2c2a05eb2</guid><dc:creator>Louise6732</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Thumbs_up.png" alt="Thumbs up" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sometimes it&amp;#39;s necessary!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>