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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/7627/bureaucrats-don-t-you-love-them</link><description> I live in a village in mid-Northumberland and in our village we have an excellent butcher. Said butcher recently had a visit from the trading standards inspector. All went very well except for one thing - the lamb. 
 The lamb, you see, is advertised</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/34090?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 22:00:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:9147a2a8-7269-454b-b6b8-29605bead322</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Bob Russell&amp;quot;]I only asked which suture materials people recommended to keep my stock levels as low as possible!!![/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So you did. &amp;#39;Seasy, just use 0 imperial monofilament nylon for everything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or use catgut for everything, but you might upset Mr. &amp;quot;Mickey&amp;quot; (Mouse?) Tivers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt; Friday night.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/34067?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:43:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:66e64ead-d3ff-4271-9ef5-c119abd8189d</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder whether the Welsh Office Agriculture Department bureaucrats realised the image likely to be conjured upby those initials&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/34051?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:15:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a0c08328-c10b-4ad8-af20-e4da9226deea</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Richard Carter&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Kate Richardson&amp;quot;]
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just finished bashing my head on the desk.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Excuse me for seeming simple, but how is it that something can be labelled according to where it is killed!!??? seriously cannot understand the stupidity that goes into some rulings. Trading standards.......their own rules are bo*****ks!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhh!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back to the head bashing. Somebody stop me when I start rocking quietly in the corner&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;make some room - I&amp;#39;ve just read the post on not using &amp;#39;out of date&amp;#39; suture material....&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I only asked which suture materials people recommended to keep my stock levels as low as possible!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/34048?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:56:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:126e97a2-23de-48a4-88f5-906a9b19f686</guid><dc:creator>Richard Carter</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Kate Richardson&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;Just finished bashing my head on the desk.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Excuse me for seeming simple, but how is it that something can be labelled according to where it is killed!!??? seriously cannot understand the stupidity that goes into some rulings. Trading standards.......their own rules are bo*****ks!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhh!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back to the head bashing. Somebody stop me when I start rocking quietly in the corner&lt;/p&gt;
[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;make some room - I&amp;#39;ve just read the post on not using &amp;#39;out of date&amp;#39; suture material....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/34046?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:48:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a861c87c-d410-4905-8cdd-a6c64b77a355</guid><dc:creator>Mark Holmes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Utlendigur&amp;quot;]Standing on the foreshore below Tal-y-Foel it wouldn&amp;#39;t be hard to try and picture the scene. Think of half naked men, dark haired and dark eyed, fair skinned and blue eyed. Young and old. Small, wiry in stature, their bodies decorated in &lt;b&gt;blue woad&lt;/b&gt;. Carrying small shields made of leather skin and swords made of iron. Around them, wild shrieking women and white robed Druids lamenting and wailing to the heavens above[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like a night out in Cardiff &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/34045?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:40:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a9d2d877-8333-4f4c-8b06-be420f2be7b4</guid><dc:creator>Utlendigur</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Hannah Wynne Richards&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;they&amp;#39;re MAFF-we&amp;#39;re WOAD &amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Probably a hang-over from when the Druids/Welsh tried to keep the Romans out of Anglesey&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Standing on the foreshore below Tal-y-Foel it wouldn&amp;#39;t be hard to try 
and picture the scene. Think of half naked men, dark haired and dark 
eyed, fair skinned and blue eyed. Young and old. Small, wiry in stature,
 their bodies decorated in &lt;b&gt;blue woad&lt;/b&gt;. Carrying small shields made of 
leather skin and swords made of iron. Around them, wild shrieking women 
and white robed Druids lamenting and wailing to the heavens above.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any resemblence?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/34041?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:47:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e9d88a07-9afa-410d-8809-69f3bf2a9d1a</guid><dc:creator>Kate Richardson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Angry_smiley.png" alt="Angry" /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Confused_smiley.png" alt="Confused" /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Shocked_smiley.png" alt="Shocked" /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Eye_rolling_smiley.gif" alt="Exasperated" /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Baring_teeth_smiley.png" alt="Really very angry indeed" /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Sick_smiley.png" alt="Sick" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just finished bashing my head on the desk.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Excuse me for seeming simple, but how is it that something can be labelled according to where it is killed!!??? seriously cannot understand the stupidity that goes into some rulings. Trading standards.......their own rules are bo*****ks!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhh!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back to the head bashing. Somebody stop me when I start rocking quietly in the corner.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/34034?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:34:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c4314838-237e-4e69-93d3-1ecf9ebc3309</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Veterinary example of &amp;quot;Bureaucratitis &amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I worked in Llandrindod Wells, I used to drop TB forms at the local Welsh Office Agriculture Dept office on the way home&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One day I did a TB test on the one farm in the entire practice NOT in Wales-it was approx 1/4 mile intoShropshire-wrote upthe test on automatic pilot,dropped it off as usual&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A few days later, back came the form in the post, with instructions to send it to Shrewsbury !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I happened tomeet one of the WOAD veterinarians socially a few days later,and said &amp;quot;Why couldn&amp;#39;t you have just posted it toShrewsbury, instead of back to me ? Don&amp;#39;t you people talk to each other ?&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was told with an absolutely straight face &amp;quot;You didn&amp;#39;t just get the wrong office-you got the wrong Government Dept -they&amp;#39;re MAFF-we&amp;#39;re WOAD &amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/33956?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:23:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:53a1d427-1fe2-440a-8278-eae722a611fc</guid><dc:creator>Tim Mainland</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Northumbria is much larger than Northumberland, and includes Tyne and Wear, and much more besides. 4 days ago there was an extensive discussion of this point on the Facebook group &amp;quot;Northumberland&amp;quot;. Oh, I miss that wonderful place...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/33949?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:37:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:23951e85-2d5b-4053-b374-691564a1e522</guid><dc:creator>fluffygirl</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Is there an abattoir within the fair county of Northumberland?? If not, then presumably no meat can be described as &amp;#39;Northumbrian&amp;#39;?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/33944?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:01:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d7f457ad-b6f4-457e-b434-e3c936fabcda</guid><dc:creator>Utlendigur</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Seems to have been in the news recently &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/feb/26/local-food-labelling-misleading-consumers&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s a lot more local than the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; lamb from New Zealand&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From the article...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;There is no legal definition of &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; in food labelling. But the food 
law code of practice states that it should mean &amp;quot;sales within the 
supplying establishment&amp;#39;s own county plus the greater of either the 
neighbouring county or counties or 30 miles/50 kilometres from the 
boundary of the supplying establishment&amp;#39;s county&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/33934?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:05:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:f45ae8d0-d02d-4912-93f9-f03c2883a3f4</guid><dc:creator>Mark Holmes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Can he advertise is as &amp;quot;raised in Northumbria&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;raised locally&amp;quot; with no reference to the site of slaughter rather than northumbrian or local.  That would then be a statement rather than a description.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bureaucrats, don't you love them!</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/33932?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:00:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:bbe906e3-65ac-4c24-b156-4fd477f11c72</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Malcolm Ness&amp;quot;]Let nobody whinge about spending cuts as long as that man and his apologists remain in a job![/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah, but what councils cut are &amp;quot;lollipop patrols&amp;quot; and &amp;pound;100 grants to scout groups. Then blame it on the gumment. The higher in the bureaucracy they are and the bigger their salaries, the more immune they are. The &amp;quot;chief executive&amp;quot; ( &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;) is absolutely safe in his six-figure salary plus perks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looking on the bright side, the butcher can probably get a good deal of free advertisement for his lamb (which sounds excellent) out of the farce.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>