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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/7464/a-little-moan</link><description> Don&amp;#39;t you just hate it when owners seem keen to go for a treatment option so you do your homework- read up, contact a specialist, decide you are happy doing the procedure- then call the owners back to book the patient in.... and they have changed their</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32682?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:43:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:12d1fe9c-b9ce-46bd-acf0-fcd546dd5274</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s just the point James-it is the law, but what&amp;#39;s the point of it being the law when nobody enforces it. I wish RCVS would-but they say they can only regulate veterinary surgeons-although the Farriers Registration Council are far more pro-active in detecting and prosecuting acts of illegal farriery. The police have other priorities, so are too overstretched to take it on&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best hope would be one of these illegal practitioners setting up in that village in Cardiganshire, where some years ago, there wasn&amp;#39;t a single reported crime in a whole year-the local bobby might be so bored he would be glad to take it on-and prove to his superiors that he was actually doing SOMETHING&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32667?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:49:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:dd4a33bf-e6d5-4b55-bdc0-259980f047df</guid><dc:creator>Martin Jones</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Jonathan Wray&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;Dear Ms Chilton,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t write it down to experience. Look after yourself. Make a note of events.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JGW&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Funnily enough, I agree with Big J, Hannah. Make sure it&amp;#39;s recorded. And then have some beer and watch some telly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32648?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:46:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:304797c9-9e2d-4eb9-aa32-b1236529ed45</guid><dc:creator>Tanya Fielding</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We have a charge for referal if you have spent the time preparing the referal make a charge and send them the bill&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32639?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:01:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:70aad8b1-8ece-491c-a086-dcfd792e169e</guid><dc:creator>James Laidlaw</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Hannah Wynne Richards&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder if the breeder is aware she could land up in the magistrates court-as she is definitely commiting a criminal offence if not on the register- diagnosing non-disease-when it is only VETERINARY SURGEONS who&amp;nbsp; have been allowed to do so since 1948-and is acting unethically if qualified It makes me sickthat no-one is prepared to rigidly enforce the VSA&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;But who goes about taking these issues to court or wherever they need to go? &amp;nbsp;Stuff like this happens ALL the time, and similar issues with illegal supply of POMV&amp;#39;s, online pharmacies, friends giving friends drugs they had for their animal etc. etc. etc. &amp;nbsp;Can we realistically take on the costs of taking them to court? &amp;nbsp;I would if I could A) afford to b) knew where to go to and/or c) had the time to spare after working as a general practice vet. &amp;nbsp;Makes me pretty grumpy too, but I don&amp;#39;t know if we can really pursue any of these things to a level that would make a difference...&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/headbang2.gif" alt="Frustrated" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32624?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:11:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:234c8cc9-701f-4578-b128-6d1cc9bfd137</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder if the breeder is aware she could land up in the magistrates court-as she is definitely commiting a criminal offence if not on the register- diagnosing non-disease-when it is only VETERINARY SURGEONS who&amp;nbsp; have been allowed to do so since 1948-and is acting unethically if qualified It makes me sickthat no-one is prepared to rigidly enforce the VSA&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32588?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:08:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:8095f6c8-66a6-46a0-a352-fbbdca02e3ea</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;They&amp;#39;re happy, everything discussed and explained in a half hour consultation, it&amp;#39;s all booked, we&amp;#39;re all set up, some new bits of equipment bought and autoclaved....... and they don&amp;#39;t turn up. We manage to make contact with them after several days... &amp;quot;Oh, well, we asked the breeder and she said she couldn&amp;#39;t see anything wrong&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;(I wonder why not....&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/devil.png" alt="Mischievous" /&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;CatherineBoden&amp;quot;]hey then said they&amp;#39;d been to see their horse vet who said it was definately a prolapsed disc and had given him pain relief to see how he responded. They hadn&amp;#39;t even bothered to tell me.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unspeakable! &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Baring_teeth_smiley.png" alt="Really very angry indeed" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32584?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:21:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:dab7831e-5b19-4b48-a2ae-b511e9caa18b</guid><dc:creator>CatherineThomas</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;yes!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had one just last week. It was a dog who suddenly went off his legs and had neck pain. I spent at least 45mins talking to the couple about the options. stating that disc disease was the most likely cause but couldn&amp;#39;t rule out other things. Offered the options of referral for full work up, xrays with us which may show the problem or may not, or trial treatment. The guy wanted to know exactly what it was and was favouring referral but the woman didn&amp;#39;t want to put him thru anything. I phoned the referral practice, found out costs etc and tried to give them all the information about the different options. The dog wasn&amp;#39;t insured but the owners seemed to think that they could afford the costs if necessary. In the end they decided they wanted to go home and think about for an hour and discuss between the 2 of them to make a decission. 2 hrs later I phoned them to ask if they&amp;#39;d decided. They then said they&amp;#39;d been to see their horse vet who said it was definately a prolapsed disc and had given him pain relief to see how he responded. They hadn&amp;#39;t even bothered to tell me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32578?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:45:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e1b1904c-78ae-4da0-8942-1cfdddadd4c3</guid><dc:creator>J G Wray</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Ms Chilton,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t write it down to experience. Look after yourself. Make a note of events.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JGW&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32574?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:47:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:67aa7d4c-1999-44c7-9118-ecbb00e6d54e</guid><dc:creator>emma o&amp;amp;#39;connor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;yes....and they will probably change their minds again when it&amp;#39;s too late!!! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a little moan</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/32572?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:26:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:5974e618-ea9b-4544-9e0f-cdfcec63fcc0</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yup!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>