Microchip insertion and inserters

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Caroline Braidwood — Mon, 10 May 2010 13:15:48 GMT

Hi Ian

Yes it is confusing. Historically it was just petlog and Petrac. Although Anibase were in existence they used petlog for reunification but stored their own data. Now they do the whole lot and do not use Petlog at all. So now with the addition of Pet Protect there are four. This is why its important that the client understand what kind of database they are with, eg, 24 hour, not for profit, lifetime guarantee etc. Certainly very confusing for the pet owner! Most databases should be able to porvide detailed information on their service levels etc,

Kind regards

Caroline

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Ian Mostyn — Mon, 10 May 2010 12:41:01 GMT

Thanks for that. Pet Protect need to do a bit of marketing as I had no idea there was a 4th database. We use Anibase & Petlog on-line so unless Pettrac tell us when we ring them, about the new database we would have been unaware of its existence and may have assumed the chip was unregistered and rehomed the dog / cat. Surely 4 databases is too many?

Ian

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Caroline Braidwood — Mon, 10 May 2010 08:39:11 GMT

Hi Ian

The fourth database is the one that Pet Protect use. I believe it is Canadian. So the 4 are:

Petlog
Anibase
Petrac
Pet Protect

Best wishes

Caroline

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Ian Mostyn — Sun, 09 May 2010 00:02:59 GMT

Identichip have used anibase for years (AFAIK) so I still think there is another database out there...... I await correction

Ian

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Kirsten Simpson — Sat, 08 May 2010 23:56:34 GMT

My kitten is chipped with Identichip and I just got the letter through today saying that all the information is on AniBase which i'm assuming is a database so maybe that could be number 4?

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Ian Mostyn — Sat, 08 May 2010 22:02:09 GMT

[quote user="Caroline Braidwood"]2. The database that a chip is linked to is also very important. There are four in the UK now and its vital that you know where your clients' data is stored and what service levels are provided, such as 24/7 lifetime reunification etc.[/quote]

Four? I can only think of Identichip, Petlog & Petrac. What is the fourth database?

Ian

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Michael Woodhouse — Fri, 07 May 2010 22:26:33 GMT

Got a brochure through at the Surgery the other day from the College of Animal Welfare and low and behold

Course

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Caroline Braidwood — Fri, 07 May 2010 12:43:14 GMT

I am the Product Manager for Tracer Advance microchips at Bayer and thought that I may be able to offer some advice when choosing a microchip supplier. There are four things that are really important to take into consideration and these are:

1. The readability of the chip - some chips have other functions built in which can impair the reading distance and the quality of the chip is often related to the price but key to readability.

2. The database that a chip is linked to is also very important. There are four in the UK now and its vital that you know where your clients' data is stored and what service levels are provided, such as 24/7 lifetime reunification etc.

3. The scanners available vary considerably in terms of reading distance and features. More and more people now rely on a scanner that reads all chips including encrypted chips. There are now so many chips available it is advisable to also take into account the quality of scanner (especially reading distance) when trying to read a chip.

4. Finally, ask what back up is available, in terms of technical and marketing, to support you in practice.

Thanks to those of you supporting the Tracer brand - and dont forget to get all of the new microchip month tools available now from your local rep.

Hope that helps

Caroline

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Rob Smith — Thu, 06 May 2010 19:53:11 GMT

[quote user="Colin Cameron"]

I have no personal expwerience of these but a friend of mine tried the thermo chips and advised that they were pretty useless in the summer as there was a great variation if the animal was lying in the sun and the chip was fairly superficial ( same in the winter with radiatiors). I was therefore not tempted and still use a thermometer, which seems to work. Have not had a Tracer chip migrate yet !

On £10 chippers we phone done up and were told that no vet was involved but " I've been trained" on asking what happened if something went wrong the reply was " nothing ever goes wrong". We then asked what if a dog bleeds and were told in all seriousness that ,and I quote verbatim " Only white dogs bleed ". This is a first for science and news to all the other dogs!! What training could possibly have been give? Was this trainer actually qualified to teach anything? Did the chipper actually stay awake for the whole training session? Should this chipper be let near any living being with a sharp implement?

And they wonder why we get angry!!!!

[/quote]

You often find ads for training courses in local papers etc...

Incidentally - what if it does bleed?! The animalis hardly going to come to any great harm...

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Laurence Webb — Tue, 04 May 2010 19:02:33 GMT

[quote user="Colin Cameron"]

" Only white dogs bleed ". This is a first for science and news to all the other dogs!!

[/quote]

They must have misheard. What they were really told was "White dogs ALWAYS bleed"

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Laurence Webb — Tue, 04 May 2010 18:58:54 GMT

We used the Biotherm chips when they 1st came out but gave up on those because of inaccurate readings. The initial batches were calibrated incorrectly and could be out by 3 degrees Farenheit. Even those that weren't seemed to be affected by environmental temperature and made healthy dogs look hypothermic on cold days. Stressed dogs gave hyperthermic readings faster than we got from rectal thermometers. We seemed to get more wandering microchips with those than the standard Animalcare ones, which seemed odd as they had the same coating. They may have improved since then but we've not bothered finding out.

I've also recently learnt that they don't work well with microchip catflaps as they must be read at a closer range than standard microchips.

As a rule we use the Animalcare ones although our nurse got 100 of the PetProtect ones at 99p each. Now we've got them we've discovered they don't have the anti-migration coating (so won't be getting them again although it's too early to know how much they'll wander) but what a bargain!

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Colin Cameron — Tue, 04 May 2010 18:32:54 GMT

please excuse various typographical errors!

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Colin Cameron — Tue, 04 May 2010 18:30:47 GMT

And they wonder why we get angry!!!!

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Colin Cameron — Tue, 04 May 2010 18:14:59 GMT

We have tried various makes over the years but have used Tracer for several years now with no problems. We have no plans to change. Their needles are sharp!!! We've never had one fall out of the needle. We like the fact that it is an all in one unit and not cartridge type as we find them so convenient to use. We would recommend Tracer microchips.

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Bob Russell — Tue, 04 May 2010 16:36:27 GMT

Again we use identichip - the temperature sensors are a great plus and seem to work very effectively. not cheap but if there are problems such as loss of the chip or failure (rare) we complete a fax form and they replace FOC.

We have found Tracer chips to be wanderers - not tried the plastic ones.

I would love to see what level of support comes with the chips that are being implanted for £10!!!!!

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Ian Mostyn — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:39:23 GMT

We also use the Identichips with the blue inserter, not the syringe type. I personally have not had a problem but I pinch the skin on withdrawal and give it a rub to move the end of the microchip out of alignment with the skin wound. Not had a problem doing this.

Ian

Re: Microchip insertion and inserters

Michael Woodhouse — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:04:25 GMT

We use Animalcare Identichips. Perfectly happy with them.We use the ones that come in little cartridges not the ones loaded into individual syringes.

I always pinch the skin over the needle when I withdraw and have never had one come out.