Pet passport question

Re: Pet passport question

Charlotte Marshall — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:17:09 GMT

I did contact DEFRA before reissuing the passport. I can't recall all the details. I have a feeling they did not require a note anywhere but that I noted it on the sheet I sent to them.

The DEFRA guidelines state that if you issue a passport you have to enter previous rabies vaccines so it can be seen they were chipped and blood sampled at the correct time. After all when the passports first came in there were some animals where you had to enter more than one vaccine as they had been travelling on the old certificate system for a few years.

Re: Pet passport question

Arlo Guthrie — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:50:54 GMT

[quote user="cheshirevet"]Arlo, help!!! For some reason all the line spaces have disappeared from my entry so I've ended up posting a big lump of text! Many apologies to anyone trying to trawl through all that. Is there some trick I don't know of to form paragraphs, tabs and indents???[/quote]

Not sure why the formatting didn't work. Did you copy and paste the text from somewhere else. If you did, then you might need to just go through the copied text inserting the linebreaks etc. again:

Enter = new para
Shift+Enter = single line break
Bullet points / idents / alignment etc from the icons above the text entry box.

I've reformatted your post. Hope I did it right

Re: Pet passport question

Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:14:10 GMT

Glad my computer isn't the only one to do silly things off it's own bat

Wynne

Re: Pet passport question

cheshirevet — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:09:01 GMT

Arlo, help!!! For some reason all the line spaces have disappeared from my entry so I've ended up posting a big lump of text! Many apologies to anyone trying to trawl through all that. Is there some trick I don't know of to form paragraphs, tabs and indents???

Re: Pet passport question

cheshirevet — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:46:36 GMT

The Defra guidelines state "relevant sections of the passport may be completed, signed and stamped on the basis of evidence of procedures carried out by any registered veterinary surgeon. This evidence may be in the form of:

a fully completed Pet Travel Scheme /reentry cert which has been signed and stamped by an authorised veterinarian
a completed Eu passport issued by another authorised veterinarian
a record or certificate of current rabies vaccination which bears the microchip number of the animal
a blood test result (...) bearing animals microchip number and date of rabies vaccination carried out prior to blood sampling."

I have always taken from this that any vet can perform the rabies vaccination and I can sign the passport to this effect as an LVI, as long the other vet has checked the microchip prior to vaccination and made a note of this on the animal's record.

Similarly, it indicates that I can reproduce a lost passport etc as needed

(I have recently had to confirm this with defra and they were clear that this was the case).

Hope this helps!

Re: Pet passport question

Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:26:59 GMT

I may be wrong, but I seem to have a memory that when I was newly qualified, someone was suspended by DC for issuing a duplicate horse vaccination certificate without marking it as duplicate, and putting pp when another veterinary surgeon had actually done it. A show steward became suspicious as several years vaccinations were done with ezactly the same ink , the cert looked new, and it was the same signature

Recently a VS from North Wales was suspended for allowing a non OV (new term for LVI ) to do TB tests, and then signed as though he had done them !!!

Don't take the risk without written approval from DEFRA

Wynne

Re: Pet passport question

Charlotte Marshall — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:51:35 GMT

[quote user="Emma Jarratt"]

If under the principles of certification you can certify something that has taken place within your own knowledge or ascertained by you personally, for example if a non-LVI colleague administered a rabies vacc, and you have ascertained that fact, then as an LVI you can certify it.

[/quote]That is certainly how I have understood it. I had to reissue a passport in one case as the old one had gone missing/been stolen. I signed for all the vaccines according to our clinical records. I am not sure that all the vets who signed the original still worked for us.

Re: Pet passport question

Emma Jarratt — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:14:30 GMT

I think that, technically, the passport needs to be signed & stamped by an LVI that the rabies vaccination took place; the vaccination itself could have been given by an non-LVI???

Re: Pet passport question

Niall Taylor — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:27:39 GMT

[quote user="Laurence Webb"]The rabies booster can be done abroad, and vets in France/Spain certainly aren't LVIs.[/quote]

No but they are certified by their own state authority, the pet passport is a multinational scheme, it hasn't been purely British since 2001.

And the rabies vaccination section has to have an LVI stamp, not a practice stamp - sounds like some confusion on the part of the owner.

Cheers,

Niall

Re: Pet passport question

Laurence Webb — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:55:56 GMT

Are you certain about this? The rabies booster can be done abroad, and vets in France/Spain certainly aren't LVIs. I was once contacted by an owner who had difficulty getting into Britain because I'd stamped that part with my LVI stamp and not the practice stamp.

Time to try to get a definative answer out of DEFRA in writing I suspect....sigh

Re: Pet passport question

Charlotte Marshall — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:42:18 GMT

The record of the rabies vaccination in the passport does have to be made by an LVI so far as I am aware as you have to use your LVI stamp.

Re: Pet passport question

Jacquin Mitchell — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:34:00 GMT

Thank you so much for taking the time to confirm this.

Good point about additional requirements if they are travelling to a non EU country. I'm pretty sure they want to take the dog back and forth from the States.

Jacq

Re: Pet passport question

Laurence Webb — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:25:28 GMT

As long as they have the rabies vaccination boosted BEFORE the 'valid until' date on the passport then the pet passport can be extended without the need for further LVI intervention. Routine vaccinations are not part of the Pet Passport scheme so are irrelevant to this. If they left the country the dog would still need tick and tapeworm treatment to be done by a vet 24-48h before re-entry.

Remember that the Pet Passport scheme is purely a way of avoiding quarantine on return to Britain. Within the EU it is accepted as an entry certificate into other countries but non-EU countries may still have additional entry requirements such as export certificates, leptospirosis antibody titres etc so the owner should check with DEFRA if any additional documentation/tests are required. Some carriers (ie aircraft companies) may require a written health declaration by a vet before they wil l let the pet on the plane.

Finally remember that there are 'exotic' diseases abroad. Although not required as part of the scheme it is advisable to give preventative treatment for heartworm and ticks and take precautions against sandflies and mosquitoes if they are going to areas where leishmaniasis are a threat