The (Veterinary) News. And now for something completely different...

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bob lehner — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 11:08:22 GMT

[quote userid="13526" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231604#231604"]In the same vein, the term “fur baby” always makes me cringe! [/quote]

Yes - that one always makes me think of the late-lamented Father Ted - the one with the milkman and the hairy babies...

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Neil Wheadon — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 09:25:43 GMT

Dog ownership has changed

Gone are the days of a lovely long nosed dog in the corner that is bomb proof, you take it for a long walk and it knows its place. I stayed with friend a few weeks ago who has a collie. Blea knows his place. He has a bed and that's where he lives.

Today's dog need stripping, grooming, live on sofas, snort a lot, wear ridiculous harnesses and are generally lords of the house.

A client is in a consult to have an issue sorted. I had 2 vet students in with me last year, a 20 minute appointment and I couldn't get a word in edgeways for 10 minutes as they told the client how cute, wonderful and generally adorable their dog was. It's a world I don't want to live in

A dog is a dog, sorry folks

Neil

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Arlo Guthrie — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 09:07:59 GMT

I just had to reach for a bucket.

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niamhjl — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 09:03:59 GMT

[quote userid="2100" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231602#231602"]The one that makes me want to pull my hair out these days is big companies describing pet owners as 'pet parents[/quote]

In the same vein, the term “fur baby” always makes me cringe!

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Arlo Guthrie — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 08:04:23 GMT

[quote userid="6897" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231600#231600"]I don't really get the overly twee, lovey-dovey, fluffy bunny image some vets go in for these days.[/quote]

The one that makes me want to pull my hair out these days is big companies describing pet owners as 'pet parents'. Got a press release from Hill's with a liberal splattering of 'pet parents' yesterday. Makes me want to barf.

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Julian Earl — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 07:27:16 GMT

Okay Bob, point taken!

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bob lehner — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 07:21:03 GMT

I just think 'Love' is a rather over-used word. I like (most) animals, find them and their ailments interesting and can't abide cruelty in any shape or form.

But 'Love' - I don't know. I don't really get the overly twee, lovey-dovey, fluffy bunny image some vets go in for these days.

I suppose I have some sympathy with with Prince Charles' famous comment ' Whatever love is?'.

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Julian Earl — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:21:22 GMT

[quote userid="6897" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231572#231572"]s you a vet 'cos you luv animals?[/quote]

Sorry Bob, why is that a stupid question? My answer is simply yes, it was the reason!! Interest in wildlife mainly but loving our pets did lead to me thinking of what job I could do as a grown-up to work with animals? The only job I knew was that chap who looked after Jet our Labrador cross Wolfhound! when I was actually just 7 or 8 years old! So is that a stupid answer to a stupid question? I don't think so!! But I have been pleased to fulfil that childhood dream! Jet was a fantastic pet, big, stromg and docile enough for my sister and I to ride on his back ( separately not together!) I can still feel his slightly wiry fur under my fingers, a few years later!! [ few = 53!! So yep I became a vet because I did luv animals, specifically our own pets!

HTH?

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Julian Earl — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 12:57:44 GMT

[quote userid="2122" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231570#231570"]Arlo G” - No more Mr Nice Guy… … …[/quote]

Never mind Arlo/Ali-G, Are you really George Cooper or Alice?? Mo More Mr Nice Guy indeed??

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bob lehner — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 08:34:46 GMT

[quote userid="2100" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231571#231571"]Quite close to Ali G. I did play with the idea of asking really stupid questions! [/quote]

Is you a vet 'cos you luv animals?

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Arlo Guthrie — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 08:23:27 GMT

[quote userid="2131" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231564#231564"]That could be interesting, but only if you ask some tough questions[/quote]

[quote userid="6897" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231569#231569"]It would be great to see some of the leaders of the bodies that shape the profession - e.g. RCVS, BVA, DEFRA, VMD, corporates, universities - being given a no-holds-barred Andrew Neil type grilling.[/quote]

Yes, I guess it would, although I think I am personally less of a Paxman or a Neil and perhaps more of a Theroux (though not as intelligent. I think I can probably sound disarmingly stupid / uniformed because I am!)

And if I DID adopt the Paxman approach, I guess I would only ever get the one interview. The first would also be the last.

I also thought it might be nice to give advance warning of who is going to be in the chair and see what questions you would like in advance.

I haven't filmed an interview before. I think I might have to cut my teeth on a couple of soft subjects first, just to ease myself into it, and make sure the technicalities are all ironed out.

[quote userid="2122" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231570#231570"]”Arlo G”[/quote]

Quite close to Ali G. I did play with the idea of asking really stupid questions!

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George Cooper — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 08:17:12 GMT

”Arlo G” - No more Mr Nice Guy… … …

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bob lehner — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:39:52 GMT

Yes - veterinary journalism tends to be very much at the bland and wishy-washy end of the spectrum.

It would be great to see some of the leaders of the bodies that shape the profession - e.g. RCVS, BVA, DEFRA, VMD, corporates, universities - being given a no-holds-barred Andrew Neil type grilling.

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Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 28 Jul 2021 23:36:07 GMT

[quote userid="2100" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231545#231545"]So for example, if there is an interesting disciplinary case, I might go and talk to someone from VDS about the broader ramifications.[/quote]

Yes, although you might have to be careful about not prejudicing any appeal.

[quote userid="2100" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231545#231545"]This month, I thought it would be interesting to talk to Owen Monie, because he appears to have a unique setup, and I think it would be interesting to hear what he has to say about it. [/quote]

That could be interesting, but only if you ask some tough questions.

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Arlo Guthrie — Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:22:40 GMT

Thank you again everyone for feedback ... esp KathW, andbob lehner, George Cooper, Rob Davis and Evelyn Barbour-Hill

I had an editorial meeting last night with my new partner in crime, us both having read all your thoughts. Have to say, I always had my reservations about the value of reading the headlines (when the written version is there anyway). Esp. because vet news is rarely 'drop everything now' news.

I knew it needed to offer something over and above what the written version does. I hoped that might be either for its amusement factor (subjective!) or because it offers a short summary of what is happening. But it seems neither of these things are really strong enough.

So, as a result of your feedback, we thought we'd try a different tack.

Each month, we'll pick the most viewed or commented or remarkable news story, and I'll find someone to interview about it in more depth.

So for example, if there is an interesting disciplinary case, I might go and talk to someone from VDS about the broader ramifications. Or if there is an interesting new product launch. This month, I thought it would be interesting to talk to Owen Monie, because he appears to have a unique setup, and I think it would be interesting to hear what he has to say about it.

Any thoughts? Also open (now or at any stage in the future) as to issues and the people it would be interesting to explore those issues with further.

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Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Sun, 11 Jul 2021 21:31:26 GMT

[quote userid="2100" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231190#231190"]Hence why I thought to jazz it up a bit with a bit of humour (everything else in the profession is so dry!) and the 'and finally' story. So a) people might enjoy it for some light relief, and b) one can never have enough laughter. [/quote]

Yeah good!

I'd say, read (if you can bear to) a few copies of Veterinary Times – and then do everything opposite.

But, I must say, it's not really my sort of thing, and I'll only look at it in times of idle procrastination of some important but boring task.

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KathW — Sun, 11 Jul 2021 21:27:56 GMT

What George Cooper , Rob and bob lehner said.
I’m younger than some but older than others. I’m busy, work full time, have an elderly parent to visit and my own life to live. Veterinary life has also been harder over the last 15 months and I’m happy to look at VetSurgeon to see what’s happening but usually don’t comment on things because of time constraints. I don’t watch videos on Facebook no matter how amusing they are supposed to be, life is just too short.

I pick up veterinary new snippets from VetSurgeon, other veterinary emails, and general veterinary chat and social media. Between the mix I seem to pick up most relevant things.

I like to speed read and then home in on things I do actually want to read about. The problem with a news video is that you are captive to watch/ listen to everything even if it’s of no or minimal interest. If you try to speed through you can overshoot the next item and waste more time than just letting it play through.

For many of the above reasons, although I was aware of the new round ups I’d never felt compelled to play one. I looked at a few today before I commented.

Format. Okay. More comment and analysis would be one person’s viewpoint unless various veterinary contributors were asked for comment. Wouldn’t usually appeal to me. For a compelling news story, eg a RCVS survey, I have found it useful to read some debate and varied opinions.

Lighthearted presentation, fine. The and finally part reminds me of 1970s comedy but that’s not a problem!

Thumbnail at the start- I see 4 pictures and no headlines. I’m looking via this forum not You Tube. Nothing to compel me to listen.

Background - fine by me. If I was a regular viewer I may find it interesting to watch the recording “on location “. If I stumbled on such a recording I’d maybe find it amusing or maybe annoyingly light hearted if id had a particularly trying day in the current pandemic and with the struggle to plan a holiday away.

All in all I’m probably not your target audience especially if you are trying to tell me that the written word is so yesterday and a video roundup were someone else chooses what will be of interest me is the new way forward.

I probably wouldn’t watch more because I’ve already read about the things in the round up ( even if that’s just a headline and I’ve decided that’s all I want to know on that subject for the time being.

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Francisco Gomez — Sun, 11 Jul 2021 07:23:42 GMT

I admit I haven’t open the site in the last week.

Arlo, I like the format personally and Im not sure it needs improvement. I would reference my podcast. I get 50 downloads for a badly recorded episode one day, and nothing for two days in a row in something I've spent too many hours. I have decided that my podcast is my baby. I will accept reviews and suggestions but I enjoy it doing it for me.

My only question is whether I can have a link to the embedded video so I can play on YouTube directly. I. Not sure if its my crap phone but I struggle to watch within the embedded player as the playback stops whenever I move the phone, and with a 8 month old, it gets moved all the time!

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Arlo Guthrie — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 17:40:25 GMT

[quote userid="6897" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231198#231198"]Veterinary 'News' is seldom of earth shattering interest. [/quote]

Which is why I thought trying to make it (a bit) more amusing would perhaps make it more popular. Then again ... But I do wonder whether additional analysis might make it more useful / interesting. But then I could add that in the written articles.

[quote userid="6897" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231198#231198"]But your Gadget Reviews I wouldn't miss - very entertaining.[/quote]

Thank you Bob. . It is easier material to work with!

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Anthony Todd — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 17:08:21 GMT

If I knew what was "interesting", or new, instead of just looking at "Reggie" I might have had a look.......!!

Go to this: https://www.pprune.org/trending.php, look to the right!! Ladies handbags etc., right up you [or yours's] street??

And you wouldn't have known!!

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Arlo Guthrie — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 17:02:13 GMT

Gosh, just noticed something rather interesting. George Cooper, you gave feedback about the video news earlier in this thread and you were very positive! Nothing has changed about it since you posted, so I can only think there is an element of this which is down to the phase of the moon, or something!! Seriously, isn’t it interesting how feedback can be so positive one day, and not the next, when nothing has changed.

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Anthony Todd — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 16:57:06 GMT

[quote userid="2100" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231196#231196"]The topics are/were in the video title, Tony![/quote]

Yeah but, in that case why are side bars on every site I visit, inviting me to do this that or the other, AND I don't even have to click, I know it's there if I want.

Everyone wilI know that in your next appearance you are going to talk about this or that and it may be right up my, and others' street.....

I'm not tslking about obstructing or distracting vetsurgeon. just saying it might be helpful and informative.

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bob lehner — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 16:14:44 GMT

[quote userid="2235" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231192#231192"]

I'm afraid I'm with George here

[/quote]

Tend to agree with George and Rob. Veterinary 'News' is seldom of earth shattering interest. I'd rather skim over the written headlines and then read anything I'm interested in in more detail - but again I'm also at the wrong end of the age spectrum for 'soshul meeja'.

But your Gadget Reviews I wouldn't miss - very entertaining.

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Arlo Guthrie — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:25:22 GMT

[quote userid="2235" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231192#231192"]I'm afraid I'm with George here (and I have a sneaky feeling I may be a little younger than him...). I have watched some but not all of them. I have watched more of your gadget man videos than the news ones - veterinary news is mostly dull and I prefer pick which bits interest me and read rather than watch.[/quote]

Thanks Rob Davis. Yes, perhaps trying to make vet news more exciting by presenting it, and adding a bit of humour is what you might call polishing a turd! And my reading the headlines is not adding much, if any value to the stories I've already published.

A bit less brutal than George Cooper, for which thanks!

[quote userid="5904" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/29790/the-veterinary-news-and-now-for-something-completely-different/231193#231193"]If you/all VSers knew the subject for discussion etc. in advance [via the "side panel"] you might be more likely to go to it???[/quote]

The topics are/were in the video title, Tony!

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George Cooper — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 14:53:44 GMT

ROB DAVIS INFERRED (and I have a sneaky feeling I may be a little younger than him...).

Rob Davis - you, m'lad, can bog off!! And thats the "polite" version!!