Uber Vets

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Dinu Catilina — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 14:08:08 GMT

[quote userid="7638" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221335"]And I suppose Megatron and Bumblebee was voted down too! [/quote]

I called one dog Megatron and another Deceptacon. So not all bad in life. Sorry for going off topic.

Thank you Neil!

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Mark Hedberg — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 14:03:50 GMT

[quote userid="9239" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221299"]Well, I called mine after one of the Transformers, it's hard to get any worse than that... I suggested Optimus first but my wife stepped in and veto it.[/quote]

And I suppose Megatron and Bumblebee was voted down too!

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Neil Wheadon — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:58:29 GMT

[quote userid="5904" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221326"]

Sounds like a good business idea though?

Doing visits and pick up in-cases requiring "work-ups" or intensive care etc. And the odd pyo etc.

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It's called locumming...

Anyway, looking for a gap in the market, I've asked for everyone to list their free CPD, and yes there is a reason because with everyone is at home with their animals, I thought I'd start DIYVET (Or DINOVET, that's more catchy I feel) Inspired by Bob Mortimer doing his own dentistry, I feel I can create a website, set of instructions and go to videos.

Here's the promo video

www.youtube.com/watch

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Anthony Todd — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:39:24 GMT

[quote userid="4367" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221311"]If no-one collaborated, their model would collapse.[/quote]

Sounds like a good business idea though?

Doing visits and pick up in-cases requiring "work-ups" or intensive care etc. And the odd pyo etc.

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Iain Richards — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 12:08:31 GMT

True. Some of the dodgy models of vets offering drugs on the back of iffy herd health plans only suceeded because some local practices still kept doing the OOH work for the farms. THis will no doubt come into the UNder Care review

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rhmrcvs — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 11:50:43 GMT

There will always be collaborators.....

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Kate Richardson — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 11:44:05 GMT

Not removed from every page as yet- still says Vets Now on the contact us page

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Iain Richards — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 11:03:02 GMT

If no-one collaborated, their model would collapse.

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Lucy Fleming — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 10:37:32 GMT

[quote userid="3233" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221178"]I got the distinct impression they were not pleased to be having the VetsNow name used on the website. It will be interesting to see if it disappears[/quote]

It has: I just looked and it now says "Our Out of Hours emergency cover for our clients is managed, regionally, by our collaborating Emergency Care Supply Partners"

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vs0u — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 09:41:09 GMT

I think that's good - shows imagination. My old boss named the practice after the local football team

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Dinu Catilina — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 08:54:07 GMT

Well, I called mine after one of the Transformers, it's hard to get any worse than that... I suggested Optimus first but my wife stepped in and veto it.

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vs0u — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 08:45:56 GMT

Is anyone else finding the names of vet practices increasingly cringey?

Vets 4 pets

Mi Night Vet

and now

Vets 2 your pets

Surely it's possible to think of a better name or at least spell words out properly?!

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Simo — Thu, 02 Apr 2020 06:45:21 GMT

Plus the responsibility of keeping the drugs at home, it looks like. No thanks.

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Richard Stephenson — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 20:45:16 GMT

[quote userid="6353" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221173"]The plot thickens I am told by a colleague that VetsNow have no agreement with vets2yourpets and that this company has no permission either to use VetsNow's name or to link to their services, and the matter is now in the hands of the IVC legal department... [/quote]

Indeed I checked with them myself this am - there is no agreement and I got the distinct impression they were not pleased to be having the VetsNow name used on the website. It will be interesting to see if it disappears.

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Iain Richards — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 19:46:57 GMT

Further proof, if needed, that these things are set up by people with few ethics

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Chris Barker — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:52:26 GMT

The plot thickens I am told by a colleague that VetsNow have no agreement with vets2yourpets and that this company has no permission either to use VetsNow's name or to link to their services, and the matter is now in the hands of the IVC legal department...

The website is being rewritten at speed Reference to 'collaboration with two national veterinary groups' has gone, replaced with '[we] work in collaboration with veterinary practices nationally' However they have omitted to remove 'Out of Hours Emergency Care, is managed by VetsNow ltd.' from their Contact page...

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Anthony Todd — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:38:33 GMT

Then clients must be registered, and certainly, to be guaranteed [mmmm, we'll see how it goes,,,,] 24 hour attention.

Ironically, as the NHS has been doing for humans for a long time, no fees, no refusal, some wait but never a turn-away!!

Is this too much to be the veterinary corona-virus legacy??

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Iain Richards — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:29:36 GMT

I fear Richard, that we are moving to registered clients only.

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Anthony Todd — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:35:26 GMT

[quote userid="2675" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221157"]in this day and age [/quote]

When we were in a new development, and the phone line was [always] interfered with by all new arrivals, where would my out-of-hours obligation end or even begin,

!!'cos the F' phone didn't work every day 'till BT [sorry Openreach] stopped grabbing the first pair they found!!??

We'd check by looking for the Open-reach van.............

The RC should make it mandatory that OOH cover is documented and tested [and could even earn another badge....., even a LOGO...........]

Actually "Dedicated OOH service 24/7/365, and checked by the RC", with a snappy logo, might not be such a bad move???

Most clients assume.... but experience, even of mine 50+ years ago, when Mr S just left a plate on his door...... saying "phone Uncle Clive,,,,,,"

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Richard Carter — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:24:16 GMT

in this day and age where there are usually multiple practices per town or within a short drive away, I would have thought the absolute requirement you have to see regardless of expertise or support staff available, financial status of the client, past bad debtor, cost to yourself in financial and stress etc should be put to bed and removed as one of the 'threats' affecting our well being. In my mind a bad debtor or someone who is registered at multiple practices and gets asked to attend another practice has put themselves in that position

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Iain Richards — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:29:58 GMT

While it's not in the VSA 1966, that gives authority to the RCVS (us) to regulate via the CoC. Not answering, not seeing in presented would be prima faciae professional misconduct. It would need a complaint substantiated by evidence.

So, yeah but no but

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Anthony Todd — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 12:13:52 GMT

Is there any current legal responsibility for a MRCVS. to answer the telephone, let alone see an animal, let alone visit an animal?

Can the "BT have been informed" defense apply?

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Iain Richards — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:25:46 GMT

This is sadly yet another way for people who have been admitted to the RCVS to pretend that they are vets. They can work as it suits them, accepting the societal kudos of being a vet and utterly abbrogating any repsonsibility for either their cases or the medicines they use. Like Chris, I feel this this Under Care review is timely.

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Neil Wheadon — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:11:01 GMT

[quote userid="2675" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221137"]so people thinking the £100 will put people off[/quote]

I guess ambulatory clinics will know better but I'm sitting here as a locum thinking, who is going to do this work? I locummed for a house visiting practice 10 years ago that stopped because the traffic density built up to such a degree it wasn't economic.

If the client is charged £100 then a guess? is that the locum will get £50. Therefore you need 6 visits a day to approach a normal rate. Sounds simple but this would take all day on an average day, assuming there is enough work

So relying on 'at home' vets twiddling their thumbs and looking for a bit of pocket money may not be a goer as how many are actually out there with a car/VDS/Insurance/RCVS, ready to go

Neil

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Julie Innes — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:10:31 GMT

[quote userid="9239" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/life-in-practice-discussions/28994/uber-vets/221129"]We always stated to our clients that we do not accept dual registrations and if they decide to be seen elsewhere we will send the history to the new practice and unregister them.[/quote]

Yup, same here. I had a woman call me this morning- she is registered with us but, unbeknown to me, she has been getting tablets from another vet for her dogs itchy skin, and now, in the midst of the pandemic, she wants me to prescribe these tablets that we had no idea her dog was on. I don't accept people who want to be registered with more than one practice- it's too dodgy in terms on prescribing something when you don't know what else the dog is on