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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/28427/let-down-by-a-locum</link><description> [quote user=&amp;quot;Arlo Guthrie&amp;quot;]I got an email yesterday from a vet which I thought was thought provoking. So then I thought: &amp;#39;why not have a Thought for the Day&amp;#39; where anyone can post any (veterinary) thought they think deserving of sharing. Max one per</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214344?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:07:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:5ef94f1d-b28a-44f0-b2de-163821876796</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Locum agencies have so many escape clauses built in that a practice is likely to be bogged down with contract law if they were to try to follow this up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Contracts are so heavily weighted that I doubt they would be considered fair in a court of law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The practice has to pay whatever but the locum agency does not have to compensate ever!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214342?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:40:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:f8ec3fa7-8a6f-4e7f-a249-0bc8d1aa22d0</guid><dc:creator>david kemp</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have locumed and been an employer using locums. A self employed locum often working through a limited company has accepted a contract. If they are unable to fulfil that contract it is THEIR responsibility to provide an alternative person. Your order from wholesaler WILL turn up if the delivery driver has gone sick-it is their responsibility to put a relief driver on. If you want to be self-employed and charge &amp;pound;x per day you do have some responsibility to the company you have accepted work from. I once turned up for a 3 month locum to be informed that they had employed someone!! But they still kept me on for three months to honour the deal and gave me another three months!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214260?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 17:15:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ad0dad5a-0cc3-4f51-864b-3d7ef8927f4a</guid><dc:creator>Joyce Whitehead</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We had this situation with a vet locum some years ago. First time we had booked a 2 week holiday for many years as we are both vets, and a small practice, who see both horses and small animals, so locums are hard to find. &amp;nbsp;So I found a locum around 5 months before, confirmed several times by email, then things went quiet. So about 4 weeks before we went away I contacted her, and she said she had taken a position near her home. I&amp;rsquo;m not sure if she intended to tell us or not. Our staff were fantastic and spent a day phoning round, and eventually managed to get enough cover so we could get away. It was a close run thing though. Most of the agencies when we told them the story asked her name so they could note her actions too.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Im happy to say we now have a couple of part time vets who can cover when we go away, makes life much less stressful for us.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214258?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:49:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e0fded37-b8e2-4f1c-8fb3-710659d3f814</guid><dc:creator>Julie Innes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I live in fear of this! I generally use locums I have used before and know, as I need reliability. As a practice owner I only take 3 weeks a year holiday and those 3 weeks are precious to me and my family. Being let down by a locum 9 days beforehand would be hugely stressful to me, although I understand there can be mitigating circumstances. I often book my holiday around when I can book a locum!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214253?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 12:20:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:913d35e3-dd3b-44cf-9303-3ef02c4b543a</guid><dc:creator>John Wessels</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Clive Ansell&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Sarah Keir&amp;quot;]We don&amp;#39;t know why nurse cancelled the work so should not jump to judgement - maybe it was for a family emergency or their own wellness. Empathy and compassion starts with trying to understand the other sides point of view of the situation.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s as maybe, fair enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An explanation and an apology would not be too much to ask for though.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;That &amp;#39;s not going to help you though.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214251?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 12:00:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:253b4253-2b91-4ca4-a558-c9de441ccaa2</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;In preparation for one of my rare holidays, we booked a locum well in advance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She cancelled months ahead because she had hurt her hand!! I suggested we waited to see if her hand was better but the answer was no.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sure she had a longer or better offer via the agency used. No effort at all from the agency to find us a replacement.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214246?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:35:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ac1fd3fd-79c5-4e26-b373-112998a2fea2</guid><dc:creator>Clive Ansell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Sarah Keir&amp;quot;]We don&amp;#39;t know why nurse cancelled the work so should not jump to judgement - maybe it was for a family emergency or their own wellness. Empathy and compassion starts with trying to understand the other sides point of view of the situation.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#39;s as maybe, fair enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An explanation and an apology would not be too much to ask for though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214245?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:28:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ffd83b68-e6aa-4b0a-b841-524da52490d5</guid><dc:creator>Arlo Guthrie</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Sarah Keir&amp;quot;]We don&amp;#39;t know why nurse cancelled the work so should not jump to judgement - maybe it was for a family emergency or their own wellness. Empathy and compassion starts with trying to understand the other sides point of view of the situation.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, if I thought that was a possibility, I wouldn&amp;#39;t have shared the thought. But in this case, the vet told me that the nurse had simply had a more convenient offer closer to home. He said the nurse was not remotely apologetic about cancelling, saying that he/she had been let down by practices enough times that he/she felt it was quite fair to behave the same way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s one story. I&amp;#39;m sure we&amp;#39;ve all heard similar ones (I have). I just thought the vet&amp;#39;s thought was a useful one to share.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214244?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:26:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:253fad5c-e9e2-4ae7-ab12-7bfb40a7f156</guid><dc:creator>Clive Ansell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It seems to happen fairly often. I&amp;#39;ve had many calls requesting cover at short notice because another locum has cancelled last minute.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is not acceptable (without good reason) and is unprofessional.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve been a locum 18 years, and have never reneged on an agreement. My standard T&amp;amp;C&amp;#39;s are a calendar months notice from either party, although sometimes a practice owner will want an assurance that I will not cancel, and I&amp;#39;m happy to do that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have sometimes overbooked myself, booked work that I wish that I hadn&amp;#39;t, or better work has come along after booking a slot. I&amp;#39;ve never cancelled and have always seen the work through.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve missed 3 days in 18 years; 2 through illness, an acute gastritis bug, and one though an international flight home being delayed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have twice cancelled work giving well in excess (&amp;gt; 3 months) of the agreed notice. Both were because of illness in other family members.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It can work the other way round too. I&amp;#39;ve been cancelled by practices 3 times. Twice were sole charge positions in independent practices, where there was good reason. The practice owner on both occasions offered to pay me in full, which I declined because there were valid reasons for the cancellations.&amp;nbsp; One of the corporates once cancelled a 21 day booking at 3 days notice without reason, even in breach of their own contract, so I therefore successfully pursued it as a debt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Let down by a locum</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/214243?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:17:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d987cc3d-79bb-4798-b8c3-26bc3ccf2a9a</guid><dc:creator>Sarah Keir</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;We don&amp;#39;t know why nurse cancelled the work so should not jump to judgement - maybe it was for a family emergency or their own wellness. Empathy and compassion starts with trying to understand the other sides point of view of the situation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>