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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>so are you a &amp;#39;calpol&amp;#39; parent or of the &amp;#39;calpol&amp;#39; generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/27407/so-are-you-a-calpol-parent-or-of-the-calpol-generation</link><description> [quote user=&amp;quot;Martin Atkinson&amp;quot;][quote user=&amp;quot;Evelyn Barbour-Hill&amp;quot;]Ah. Now then. Define &amp;quot;suffering&amp;quot;.[/quote]I feel there is too much anthropomorphism going on. If an animal is in severe intractable pain or discomfort then yes it could be defined as suffering</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/203158?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 14:07:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:65988b6a-7ff6-497b-b834-e2782b1944ae</guid><dc:creator>Nicola Cole</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Lucy Fleming&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Nicola M&amp;quot;]Makes me think it&amp;rsquo;s use for simple headaches is overkill! (P.s. I don&amp;rsquo;t use it for normal headaches but lots of people do).[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To be fair, though, if the drug doesn&amp;#39;t accumulate and isn&amp;#39;t addictive, and it isn&amp;#39;t a regular occurrence (she says, despite regularly having weeks when every day ends in a headache...) does it matter that it is &amp;quot;too effective&amp;quot;? (I tend to only take it when they start to approach the descriptor &amp;#39;blinding&amp;#39;)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Nope, doesn&amp;rsquo;t matter at all. Guess I was just saying I&amp;rsquo;d always thought of it as fairly low level pain relief...but is surprisingly effective!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/203117?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 13:16:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b2aea69b-2d22-495d-8ec5-a41317267ef9</guid><dc:creator>Lucy Fleming</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Nicola M&amp;quot;]Makes me think it&amp;rsquo;s use for simple headaches is overkill! (P.s. I don&amp;rsquo;t use it for normal headaches but lots of people do).[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To be fair, though, if the drug doesn&amp;#39;t accumulate and isn&amp;#39;t addictive, and it isn&amp;#39;t a regular occurrence (she says, despite regularly having weeks when every day ends in a headache...) does it matter that it is &amp;quot;too effective&amp;quot;? (I tend to only take it when they start to approach the descriptor &amp;#39;blinding&amp;#39;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/203115?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 13:12:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:8cbf2b7b-f032-4227-acc9-915157168f42</guid><dc:creator>Gillian Mostyn</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/6/AJXXTzfp4wkBtuofscfnbsOj2BgrlhQH_5F00_lg.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="/resized-image.ashx/__size/696x0/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/6/AJXXTzfp4wkBtuofscfnbsOj2BgrlhQH_5F00_lg.jpg" border="0" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/203103?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:03:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:f461762e-a79c-45ab-aac1-0a8f4269ee7b</guid><dc:creator>Julie Innes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I hate when my children are unwell or in pain, and yes, I would try to give them something to help. I admit I would find it hard to hear them upset and crying and think the fever and distress was for their own good. I suspect people with animals feel the same, rightly or wrongly&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/203101?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 08:54:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:085f5f27-66ed-4027-aee8-1d2fca93306d</guid><dc:creator>Nicola Cole</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Having had recent abdominal surgery I am amazed at how strong a pain killer paracetamol (and ibuprofen) is-used regularly was much better than the very short term effect of oral opioids.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Makes me think it&amp;rsquo;s use for simple headaches is overkill! (P.s. I don&amp;rsquo;t use it for normal headaches but lots of people do).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/203096?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 02:25:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:f89f7f89-43ce-4199-bdd2-5ded0390f709</guid><dc:creator>Chris Milligan</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;One of life&amp;#39;s worst events is making the transition from junior to sugar free calpol&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/203088?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 22:13:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ff028f61-36c5-41c6-8dbe-cb9cf69ee011</guid><dc:creator>David Mills</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;vs0u &amp;quot;]How can we know what animals would prefer?&amp;nbsp;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you read some of the lab studies there is a strong preference for animals in pain to eat/drink opioid laced things...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/203079?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 20:08:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:40ae816c-a9c6-4723-b1bf-eba4f40fac21</guid><dc:creator>vs0u </dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s different for every individual , that&amp;#39;s the problem. I take ibuprofen for period pain and the difference it makes is amazing. From debilitating pain and unable to stand up to feeling completely normal. However I never take anything for colds/flu/cycling injuries as I&amp;#39;d rather let nature take its course. (and don&amp;#39;t think it makes that much difference anyway).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My husband is the opposite - he moans like anything and takes paracetamol for any minor virus, yet when he had major joint surgery recently he didn&amp;#39;t have any morphine and only took paracetamol for 4 days or so.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How can we know what animals would prefer?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: so are you a 'calpol' parent or of the 'calpol' generation?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/202928?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2018 10:45:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:36eac6bb-3ee7-40a5-b540-92f110dc4ca1</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;There is some research that has shown that by giving NSAIDs to suppress fever and thus make the patient feel better it prolongs recovery time as the fever is part of the body&amp;#39;s defences against the infection. OK there may be times when you feel so shite that you can&amp;#39;t function normally without some relief but animals don&amp;#39;t have to carry on working and can just rest until the body heals itself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My wife takes paracetomol like sweeties, I&amp;#39;m the opposite and won&amp;#39;t take anything unless I&amp;#39;m half dead (occasional NSAIDs for chronic joint swelling/pain so I can keep running/cycling/skiing excepted)!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I even refuse opioids after orthopaedic surgery because I feel dysfunctional and nauseous and would rather put up with pain. How do we know that given the choice animals would not feel the same.&lt;/p&gt;
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