Dead Calf Caeser

RE: Dead Calf Caeser

Sarah Keir — Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:38:27 GMT

I used to caesar and most did well. Never would of chopped one up - take too long and smelly and scars on my arms to prove I tried. Amazing what cows will tolerate in their abdomens - remember one CS going down in a filthy yard and spilling the guts out and she was fine!

RE: Dead Calf Caeser

Anthony Todd — Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:30:39 GMT

[quote user="Julian Earl"]I am suitably impressed if you have caesared these with such success. I found that even the prolonged embryotomy for such cows would be fatal.spill litres [/quote]

I never caesared these..... and I think all of my caesars gave live calves as. if the calf was dead PV [they suck uour fingers] I did an embryotomy, as I hope I made clear.

RE: Dead Calf Caeser

Julian Earl — Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:45:06 GMT

Thanks for the enlightenment Antony. I am suitably impressed if you have caesared these with such success. I found that even the prolonged embryotomy for such cows would be fatal. I have been reluctant to spill litres of dead/bacteria-laden fluid into the abdomen by opening them up. If you have exterioised the uterus then that is clearly an improvement on me. Everything seemed to point towards massive peritonitis and several bottles of NSAIDs plus antibiotics trying to stem the inevitable! It dhasn't worked often for the embryotomies so never ventured into going for a surgical approach. Maybe I was not bold enough but I've tried boldness before and it ended in tears!

Thanks again,

BW.

RE: Dead Calf Caeser

Anthony Todd — Thu, 13 Sep 2018 03:47:17 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]We are talking days dead, gassy emphysematous calves here. Most do very well.[/quote]

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Julian Earl

Michael and Antony, I'm interested with what you disagree about my advice

I agree with you definitely in not caesaring a rotten calf, my point was not to cull, rather do an embryotomy which they seem to tolerate well and [er, no stats at all] AFAIK stayed in the herd, or at least didn't die, 'cos the farmer would let you know....

I can't remember having to revisit the cow afterwards and I don't recollect any further history either; maybe they didn't get in-calf again??

Oh, I suppose this should have been a tangent but it seems sensible to respond, if totally on topic, within the thread.

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