Scissor sharpening

RE: Scissor sharpening

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:17:33 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"] do you bother sharpening dental instruments or just buy new ones?[/quote]

Which instruments?

I sharpen luxators and curettes.

I can't really afford to buy new ones of everything every week.

RE: Scissor sharpening

Edward Jones — Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:47:19 GMT

I find it quite rare for clipper blades to need sharpening. It's more a maintenance issue than bluntness, in my experience.

far more common is hair between the blades requiring them to be stripped down, or a worn/loose fitting on the clipper body itself.

RE: Scissor sharpening

Martin Atkinson — Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:00:16 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]

Maybe if you didn't buy crappy ones in the first place?

I assure you that my scissors are well worth sharpening.

[/quote]Slight aside Evelyn and a genuine question: do you bother sharpening dental instruments or just buy new ones?

RE: Scissor sharpening

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Sun, 10 Dec 2017 16:51:42 GMT

[quote user="David Mills"]Chuck them and buy new. Not worth the hassle or expense.[/quote]

Maybe if you didn't buy crappy ones in the first place?

I assure you that my scissors are well worth sharpening.

RE: Scissor sharpening

Lou Dawson — Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:39:24 GMT

I have a lot to say on this but I’ll keep it short. If anyone would like to discuss further I’d be happy to.

- my ability was thoroughly tested when I sat my board exams and is still tested every day just doing normal work. I don’t need extra tests.

- I can’t always tell what tissues are when they are necrotic/inflamed/neoplastic +/- crushed by forceps. I’ve guessed before and got it wrong and the potential consequences are too severe for the patient.

- pathologists are here to help you. We like to help you get a diagnosis, prognosis and treatment plan for your patient, please think of us as part of the team. We can’t always do that if we don’t have all the pertinent information relating to the case. I try not to write sarcastic comments but sometimes I’m annoyed that I haven’t been able to do my job to the best of my ability and provide the most helpful report for you, due to the lack of clinical history. Would you send a surgical referral without a history/referral letter?

RE: Scissor sharpening

Lucy Fleming — Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:11:45 GMT

[quote user="Neil Wheadon"]It's like asking you to rectal a cow with your eyes, ears and mouth shut.[/quote]

Keeping your mouth shut is always a good idea

RE: Scissor sharpening

Chris Milligan — Sun, 10 Dec 2017 03:22:17 GMT

[quote user="David Mills"]Somewhat reminds of pathologists who write passive aggressive reports when you don't tell them exactly where the tissue comes from (I Do this regularly to test their skill),[/quote]

why do this? what are you trying to prove to anyone? how dumb the pathologist is? how brilliant you are for outwitting them? the only entity that suffers when you don't work with the pathologist is the patient. if you biopsied a metastatic lesion in the liver that had spread from the gut then you would give a confusing picture to the pathologist if you didn't tell them you took the sample from the liver.

RE: Scissor sharpening

Michael Woodhouse — Sun, 10 Dec 2017 00:56:56 GMT

[quote user="Neil Wheadon"]I think a history must be helpful[/quote]

I'm sure it makes the pathologist's job more interesting, but that is very little concern of mine!

[quote user="Neil Wheadon"]It's like asking you to rectal a cow with your eyes, ears and mouth shut.[/quote]

Back to cognitive bias, am I more likely to tell a farmer a cow is PD plus when I see some fluid and he tells me she's 30 days served, versus me looking carefully when cow running with a bull and could be at any stage of pregnancy/oestrus cycle? I'd like to hope not (always confirm pregnancy with heartbeat, check for twins etc) but the expectation the cow is in calf is there given the days in calf.

I genuinely wonder if the pathologist is looking harder trying to decide what tissue they are looking at and if that is normal CF me asking if it's a MCT or not and them looking for evidence to support that

RE: Scissor sharpening

Neil Wheadon — Sat, 09 Dec 2017 23:59:45 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

This also is one of my pet hates. Look at the tissue and tell me what you see.

If you can't decide yourself what the tissue is then I want a better pathologist. What I say shouldn't affect what you see.

[/quote]

I think a history must be helpful

It's like asking you to rectal a cow with your eyes, ears and mouth shut.

Neil

RE: Scissor sharpening

Michael Woodhouse — Sat, 09 Dec 2017 23:25:49 GMT

This also is one of my pet hates. Look at the tissue and tell me what you see.

If you can't decide yourself what the tissue is then I want a better pathologist. What I say shouldn't affect what you see.

RE: Scissor sharpening

David Mills — Sat, 09 Dec 2017 18:16:54 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]Maybe you've been using the wrong blade sharpening service [/quote]

Nope, have used those mentioned on here plus a couple of others.

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]perhaps as you work for charities they're so into saving pennies that he blades are already wrecked from overuse.[/quote]

It's a nice theory but the reality, as ever, is sadly different. Once a blade stops working effectively it's no use. We get through them quickly given the throughput and we haven't time for ones that don't work. Simple really.[quote user="Lucy Fleming"]Gosh how perfectly delightful of you. Calls to mind those owners who, when you ask what the problem is, respond so helpfully with "I dunno, you're the vet, you tell me".[/quote]

Nice try old fruit, but somewhat a category error. It's called reducing cognitive bias, and the reason we blind scientific studies. I find with the right pathologist that it gives a better interpretation, with those that throw toys it gets sent for a second opinion.

RE: Scissor sharpening

Neil Wheadon — Sat, 09 Dec 2017 11:31:51 GMT

[quote user="Clive Ansell"]

Can anyone recommend a good company for sharpening scissors and clipper blades?

thanks

[/quote]

Sorry Clive laughed out loud with your new 'Image' and imagining Doctor Spock trying to cut a piece of paper...

Neil

RE: Scissor sharpening

Martin Atkinson — Sat, 09 Dec 2017 10:10:35 GMT

[quote user="David Mills"]Chuck them and buy new. Not worth the hassle or expense. I have found clipper blade sharpeners almost universally useless and bizarrely snobby.[/quote]Maybe you've been using the wrong blade sharpening service or perhaps as you work for charities they're so into saving pennies that he blades are already wrecked from overuse. Both Burtons and Shear-Ease have been universally helpful and efficient. I never actually spoken to anyone at Shear-Ease to find out if they're snobby or not but Burtons are great to deal with!

RE: Scissor sharpening

Lucy Fleming — Sat, 09 Dec 2017 09:25:53 GMT

[quote user="David Mills"] Somewhat reminds of pathologists who write passive aggressive reports when you don't tell them exactly where the tissue comes from (I Do this regularly to test their skill),[/quote]

Gosh how perfectly delightful of you. Calls to mind those owners who, when you ask what the problem is, respond so helpfully with "I dunno, you're the vet, you tell me".

RE: Scissor sharpening

David Mills — Sat, 09 Dec 2017 00:36:15 GMT

Some classic quotes

"teeth broken, suggest replacement" (we'd sent off new blades as a test)

"no sharpening required, suggest clipper function impaired" (4y old blades)

"factory sharpness attained" - wouldn't cut butter, 2nd time sent off.

It may just be incompetence. Or laziness. Somewhat reminds of pathologists who write passive aggressive reports when you don't tell them exactly where the tissue comes from (I Do this regularly to test their skill),

RE: Scissor sharpening

Virginia Campbell — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 23:18:29 GMT

[quote user="David Mills"] bizarrely snobby.[/quote]

Do tell.

Are Oster clippers U or non-U? What about Andis? Intrigued to hear about the snobby clipper-sharpeners.

RE: Scissor sharpening

David Mills — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 20:36:03 GMT

Chuck them and buy new. Not worth the hassle or expense. I have found clipper blade sharpeners almost universally useless and bizarrely snobby.

Oh and by chuck them you have to physically put them in the sharps bin yourself as otherwise they will mysteriously reappear in a kit or set of clippers soon after.

RE: Scissor sharpening

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 17:56:11 GMT

Shear-Ease in Amlwch

RE: Scissor sharpening

Martin Atkinson — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 17:55:34 GMT

Look no further than the top the page: Burtons!