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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/25948/favourite-lay-advice</link><description> [quote user=&amp;quot;Anthony Todd&amp;quot;][quote user=&amp;quot;Bob Russell&amp;quot;]Clients expectations are getting progressively more and more unrealistic![/quote] I wonder if anyone has asked these [PinA] clients why they feel the need to argue, disagree or interrogate the vet</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181521?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:47:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3fa6bbc1-e374-40fc-9a13-018d3adaa469</guid><dc:creator>Jill Butterworth</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and definitely don&amp;#39;t be boring.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181507?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2017 22:30:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a1c56b72-acd7-4ac9-9d6a-98cfb670f883</guid><dc:creator>Sarah McGurk</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Michael Woodhouse&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can&amp;#39;t be the only one who read the thread title and looked in with a mixture of trepidation and curiosity why people were sharing their &amp;quot;favourite lay&amp;quot; advice on a vet forum.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]Ah the power of language. The plumber in my first post wasn&amp;#39;t a real plumber. It was Stan Pipe, who came round with his plumber&amp;#39;s putty to erect some malleable fittings...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181455?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2017 10:38:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0e3c240b-4883-4792-9649-61cdd27e207d</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Michael Woodhouse&amp;quot;] &amp;quot;favourite lay&amp;quot; advice[/quote]Since you suggested it: Act naturally, don&amp;#39;t try too hard -&amp;nbsp;definitely no corny chat-up lines, be enigmatic, have a sense of humour and be generous (also helps if you&amp;#39;re good looking and don&amp;#39;t have BO or halitosis)! &lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/Hot_smiley.png" alt="Cool" /&gt;&lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/devil.png" alt="Mischievous" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181444?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 22:52:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:5af60cea-2216-49e6-86d7-73775585efff</guid><dc:creator>Michael Woodhouse</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I can&amp;#39;t be the only one who read the thread title and looked in with a mixture of trepidation and curiosity why people were sharing their &amp;quot;favourite lay&amp;quot; advice on a vet forum.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181439?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:34:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0362cd82-734a-409f-858c-9172809f2b7c</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Neil Wheadon&amp;quot;]the children in Ethiopia tie rocks to rope and throw it through the front wheel to bring a cyclist down.[/quote]Sorry to continue to hikjack this thread but you don&amp;#39;t have to go to Ethiopia. I was out for a ride last night and went past a field where some ahem...travelers had set up camp and a load of them were out for an evening stroll/bit of bother. One boy thought he could scare me by jumping out in the road - failed, and some more rolled a ball down a hill towards me but the camber took it away, They then stood in the road to try and stop me - I just rode straight at them at 20 mph thinking its going to hurt you more than me mate and not surprisingly they jumped out of the way at the last minute. And they wonder why we make less than complimentary remarks about them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181418?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:04:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a63161b0-1f85-4aae-b64b-0a12c6911a85</guid><dc:creator>Neil Wheadon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Martin Atkinson&amp;quot;]Best not to try it on a pack of feral dogs in Turkey though![/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, tales of being chased 10 miles by dogs in Turkey are out there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The worst case I heard recently was cycle touring in Ethiopia. North Africa, Egypt, Sudan etc have always had a reputation for stone throwing, however the children in Ethiopia tie rocks to rope and throw it through the front wheel to bring a cyclist down. I crossed Ethiopia of my wish list a &amp;nbsp;few years ago following a disastrous group trip I heard about and this re-inforced it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Neil&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181410?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 10:30:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d458620d-5b7b-4614-bc49-82b335c6b64a</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Neil Wheadon&amp;quot;]I&amp;#39;m always doing this, frequently chasing a dog right back to it&amp;#39;s kennel and yelling at it.[/quote]Best not to try it on a pack of feral dogs in Turkey though!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181409?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 10:27:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:931ff49f-5b8a-451c-9726-ff1b82e7406c</guid><dc:creator>Neil Wheadon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Martin Atkinson&amp;quot;]When asked why he said that every time he had ridden past there previously the farm dog had run out and chased him but strangely this was the first time it hadn&amp;#39;t. I explained that this was because the last time I went past and the dog ran out I stopped and chased the dog back so it didn&amp;#39;t have the behaviour of thinking I was going away because he&amp;#39;d chased me reinforced. I don&amp;#39;t think he was convinced.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bizarre, I&amp;#39;m always doing this, frequently chasing a dog right back to it&amp;#39;s kennel and yelling at it. It confuses anyone on a group tour, suddenly rounding a bend to see the leader cycling furiously the other way, shouting his head of.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does it work? Yes it seems to as in the evening I ask if the back markers were bothered by the dog....&amp;#39;What dog?&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; Neil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181405?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 09:15:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a5c10e79-4d2f-479e-98b3-afcd04a34547</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Neil Wheadon&amp;quot;]If you are riding your bike and you are attacked &amp;#39;Ram your bicycle pump down the dogs throat, remember this is war&amp;#39;[/quote]I recall joining up with another cyclist a while ago and as we cycled past a farm gate he started to sprint. When asked why he said that every time he had ridden past there previously the farm dog had run out and chased him but strangely this was the first time it hadn&amp;#39;t. I explained that this was because the last time I went past and the dog ran out I stopped and chased the dog back so it didn&amp;#39;t have the behaviour of thinking I was going away because he&amp;#39;d chased me reinforced. I don&amp;#39;t think he was convinced.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, in the days of mini-pumps and CO2 cartridges its not so easy to attack the dog with your pump!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181403?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:58:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0d0628a4-3eaf-428b-a56f-0e62b20e5413</guid><dc:creator>Neil Wheadon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Dog attacks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) Room 101 last night on BBC&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If a dog is clamped onto your arm with it&amp;#39;s teeth simply stick your finger up it&amp;#39;s bottom&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) Richard Ballantine&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He wrote the original bike maintenance book (sadly died last year)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you are riding your bike and you are attacked &amp;#39;Ram your bicycle pump down the dogs throat, remember this is war&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Eeeeeeek&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Neil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181402?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:41:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:979c77f7-e59b-49b4-a94e-12f2a5276ae4</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Julie Innes&amp;quot;] Its usually A Man Down The Park Who&amp;#39;s Had Dogs All His Life[/quote]&amp;#39;The man down the park&amp;#39; has long been superseded by Dr Google. Albeit the groomer is still a bit of an expert!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Favourite lay advice</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/181401?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:35:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c67c0338-923b-42c7-91e7-b30ec6e1f711</guid><dc:creator>Julie Innes</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Ha! Yes, I love this. Its usually A Man Down The Park Who&amp;#39;s Had Dogs All His Life (so, 5 or 6 dogs, compared to the 1000s we have seen?) who is most quoted here. His word seems to be undisputed, much like the Breeder&amp;#39;s. I&amp;#39;ve had several Men-Down-The-Park trying to give me (crazy) advice about my dogs, and when I admitted I was a vet they were completely undeterred, and carried on!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>