RCVS CEO role

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Neil Wheadon — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 15:52:16 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]Who on earth drafted the CEO's Contract of Employment???????????[/quote]

George Osbourne

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Anthony Todd — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 14:11:43 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]Self-regulation is not doing that much for the profession and perhaps a change is in order.[/quote]

Yet hardly any of the sensible posters on here stand for Council and those on Council, with one notable exception, don't post on here.......

This forum is very like MoP's "surgeries" in that constituents can complain, which is, thankfully, what happens on here.

Who on earth drafted the CEO's Contract of Employment???????????

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Bob Russell — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 13:22:18 GMT

With the march of corporate practice and rush to the bottom for pricing and quality of care, I tend to agree! Self-regulation is not doing that much for the profession and perhaps a change is in order.

Clearly a significant number of veterinary surgeons agree that 'there is something nasty in the woodshed' and are marching with their feet, thinking about marching or wishing they could.

All the VetFutures and mental health considerations in the world will not change the fact that vets train hard and end up being paid trivial amounts often for stupidly long working days. Little chance of buying a house, staggering student loans and almost nowhere to go except into the hands of a faceless corporate interested only in financial targets.

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David Mills — Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:36:03 GMT

RCVS staff in playing politics shocker.

The sooner it moves out of London the better. It's stuff like this that makes me think self-regulation is overrated.

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Richard Stephenson — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:11:44 GMT

Iain,

I did permit myself a wry smile at the Vet Times headlines

'FCA Role will boost College Status'

Surely that should be 'FCA's status enhanced by association with Royal College'.

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J G Wray — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:14:10 GMT

From June 30th 2015

[quote user="J G Wray"]

In turn I think it's possible to be more clear in the short term about RCVS' futures

RCVS Futures 2015-2018

Re accreditation

Outcome focused regulation

Major capital expenditure in London

Increased head count

CEO moves on

[/quote]

I note the increase in head count to deal with the PI backlog, that they've chewed on outcome focused CPD first and now the CE is spreading his wings...

[quote user="Richard Stephenson"]

[quote user="J G Wray"]As a career option for a lawyer in Central London what does working for a niche Regulatory body do for your cv?[/quote]

That's a very interesting question and I have no idea of what the answer would be......

I have observed that one issue for the RCVS is that when staff leave they tend to move to other 'bigger' regulators - I suspect that the size of the RCVS doesn't give a large enough career structure for staff to be able to advance internally as much as they would like -

[/quote]

Not just lawyers then.

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Sarah Keir — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:48:28 GMT

I read it that he gets paid £150,000 for 11 days work and some bed time reading. I want that job!

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Iain Richards — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:38:33 GMT

Neil. I intend to. I was asking on this relatively closed forum hoping for a straight answer that CEO is paid for 11 months and does these other roles in his time off.

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Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:09:12 GMT

[quote user="Malcolm Ness"] leaves our CEO (whose post I had always assumed to be full time) available to do his job for only 11/12 of the time.[/quote]

His £150,000 p.a. job, one might note.

But according to today's Vet Times, it's all all right, he's going to do the other job in his spare time (like, he says, Council members with full-time jobs doing their Council stuff in their spare time.... conveniently forgetting that they don't get paid for their Council stuff)... his spare time when he's not doing [quote user="Iain Richards"]Chair of the Royal Agricultural University, a council member of the National Trust and chair of the Wild Network.[/quote]

Oh, and yes, this mingling will apparently bring much benefit and status to RCVS, rubbing shoulders with Ruth Kelly and Baroness Hogg, wow. As he says " no bad thing for the RCVS, for the profession – or for him personally". Hmmm, ye-es.

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Neil Wheadon — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:59:01 GMT

[quote user="Iain Richards"]Can my original questions be answered please? It should be open information.[/quote]

With respect Iain, this is a voluntary forum

Why don't you contact the RCVS and ask them then report back?

Neil

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Malcolm Ness — Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:55:02 GMT

The silence on this one is deadening!!

According to parts of the free veterinary press, this new job will take up a month each year which, by my reckoning leaves our CEO (whose post I had always assumed to be full time) available to do his job for only 11/12 of the time.

Councillors, you really MUST throw some light on this! Was this discussed in Council? If not, why not and what are you doing about it? Is this par-timification of a key role in the College consistent with the employment contract? If it is, why?? and if it isn't. What is being done about it?

All councillors and candidates - if you know about this strange turn of events, then share your knowledge and if you don't then you need to find out.

............. and people wonder why turn-out at College elections is so low!

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Iain Richards — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:30:29 GMT

Can my original questions be answered please? It should be open information.

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grumpyoldman — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:56:08 GMT

Makes you think about Tony Blair and a bit of yes minister. New brooms can only sweep clean after someone jet washed the mud from the walls, PR people soon loose interest and start taking extended lunches when they think no ones looking ,its often necessary for chimps to grab a new branch before they let go of the old one. And never trust anyone who goes to work in a suit.

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Bob Russell — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:34:42 GMT

I don't think the weaknesses of an organisation should be discussed outside the profession involved, by a CEO or anyone else trusted to improve standards.

I also strongly disagree that the RCVS has ever had low public confidence (unless we are considered the public!). Veterinary surgeons have a high standard of public confidence (albeit dropping perhaps) and most members of the public do not even know the RCVS exists!

Perhaps those complaining about a vet have low confidence in it as a regulator but a large percentage of complainants are grumbling about perceived mistakes and bills. Everyone makes mistakes and practices will dish out bill which some are really unhappy with.

Disappointed that Nick Stace seems to be happy washing 'dirty laundry' in public.

I agree that a number of vets distrusted the RCVS governance perhaps quite rightly at that time.

Overall I believe that Nick Stace has been beneficial and the RCVS is more trusted than a few years ago.

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Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 22 Mar 2017 18:13:10 GMT

Ah, don't you love that weasel phrase "out of touch". It's what people text to the Daily Star whenever a judge makes a considered decision according to unbiased and rational application of the law rather than pandering to the latest prejudice of the mob.

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J G Wray — Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:23:08 GMT

"..Another Nick, Nick Stace of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons (RCVS), found distrust, dysfunctional governance and little clarity of direction, coupled with low public confidence in the regulator judged out of touch when he arrived as CEO. What he didn’t do was blame anyone for the situation, he accepted it aware that many people he needed to work with had been part of what went on before..."

22nd June 2016

http://thesamewavelength.com/change-where-to-start/

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Bob Russell — Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:33:39 GMT

Assuming there were 'exit interviews' has anything been learnt from their loss? Clearly the details are confidential but the jist should be known.

Are we blaming the RCVS for being this or that when it only has part timers at the helm?

Belgium did quite well without a proper government so may be it is running itself a lot of the time!

Depressingly little is heard from councillors so I admit I haven't a clue what is going on!

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Malcolm Ness — Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:16:55 GMT

Iain makes some good points and asks some pertinent questions.

Some years ago, BVA hit a significant problem because of a CEO "getting too big for his boots". Some of us wonder whether that might be happening in Belgravia House. Certainly, we have seen a lurch away from being a regulator (first rate or otherwise) in the direction of being a rather low-budget customer-complaints handler. That was never part of any councillor's manifesto and it is a subject upon which few, if any of them have spoken on/defended/criticised in public. Why??

Finally, in the last year or so, the College has lost several quite senior members of staff in unplanned/unexpected departures: Nick Royle was head of RCVS Knowledge and he left all of a sudden; Rich Evans was hugely expert and very experienced Editor of the new RCVS Knowledge journal and he too left after a remarkably short time in post and most worryingly was the Registrar, Gordon Hockey who left very suddenly and without the extended hand-over period that is customary with such senior professional roles. At the very least, I find it strange that nobody on council or aspiring to gain election to council is raising questions about what seems to be a worrying churn of senior people.

On a very simple level - after several years in post and in relation to the CEOs aspiration to be a "First Rate Regulator" we might ask the questions, "Are we there yet?" and , "If not, why not?"