Tapeworm treatments

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Derek Lyon — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:25:29 GMT

Many thanks for all your valuable replies. Looks like I opened a can of worms. Joking apart sincere thanks

Derek

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Claudia Niehoegen — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 14:51:40 GMT

That went wrong! Just my post, no quote, sorry for the confusion.

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Claudia Niehoegen — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 14:50:12 GMT

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Milbemycin is probably out of the system in 2 days, but advocate is supposed to work for a month. If drugs from different companies are used they don't have much commercial interest in testing the compatibility, I always thought.

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RE: Tapeworm treatments

Charlotte Marshall — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:33:12 GMT

We droncit twice a year if on monthly advocate though we would do it more frequently in cats who hunt of course.

I was not aware of an issue with milbemycin as well as advocate in fact we had been specifically told by reps it was safe although I always advise dosing a couple of days apart.

RE: Tapeworm treatments

ruths — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:50:32 GMT

I think we need to know more about where you are, what lifestyle the dog has etc

eg tick area? Lungworm? Raw food? Any small kids etc?

We need to work out the relative risks so we can recommend a regime

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Beats — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:53:36 GMT

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[quote user="Utlendigur"]

[quote user="Utlendigur"]Dipilydium caninum has fleas as an intermediate host, so that is a risk in all dogs - probably low risk if on monthly advocate but no flea treatment is 100%[/quote]

A low risk of transmission of an inconsequential parasite? If so hardly worth "routine" (or in many cases perhaps more accurately described as "random") praziquantel-(ab)use?

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But it is potentially zoonotic, which would be an interesting conversation with a client if infection occurred and you had specifically advised they shouldn't treat...

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Am unconvinced that praziquantel-ing one's dog (receiving regular effective flea treatment that largely prevents breeding of fleas from your dog) every 3/6/12months will reduce the risk of one's infants ingesting fleas that have developed from infected larval stages from negligible to zero for a disease that is both presumed very rare (in kids) and, generally, asymptomatic? May as well praziquantel the kids monthly as any infected fleas they eat probably weren't conceived on your dog?

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Marie Kubiak — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 18:51:35 GMT

[quote user="Utlendigur"]But it is potentially zoonotic, which would be an interesting conversation with a client if infection occurred and you had specifically advised they shouldn't treat...[/quote]

Yes, I was always taught that we wormed cats and dogs for human protection, not animal! Hence the recommendations for routine blanket treatment rather than faecal microscopy and targeted therapy.

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Utlendigur — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 18:49:38 GMT

[quote user="Beats"]

[quote user="Utlendigur"]Dipilydium caninum has fleas as an intermediate host, so that is a risk in all dogs - probably low risk if on monthly advocate but no flea treatment is 100%[/quote]

A low risk of transmission of an inconsequential parasite? If so hardly worth "routine" (or in many cases perhaps more accurately described as "random") praziquantel-(ab)use?

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But it is potentially zoonotic, which would be an interesting conversation with a client if infection occurred and you had specifically advised they shouldn't treat...

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Glenn Hodgson — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 18:24:06 GMT

Interesting comment recently that can't use Milbemycin (Milbemax/Milquantel etc) as VDS issues

Neil

How come ?

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Beats — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 16:15:48 GMT

[quote user="Utlendigur"]Dipilydium caninum has fleas as an intermediate host, so that is a risk in all dogs - probably low risk if on monthly advocate but no flea treatment is 100%[/quote]

A low risk of transmission of an inconsequential parasite? If so hardly worth "routine" (or in many cases perhaps more accurately described as "random") praziquantel-(ab)use?

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Utlendigur — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:28:23 GMT

Dipilydium caninum has fleas as an intermediate host, so that is a risk in all dogs - probably low risk if on monthly advocate but no flea treatment is 100%

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Beats — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:18:43 GMT

Is your dog around livestock or eating uncooked meat? If not I don't recommend "routine" tapeworm treatment in an adult dog in area I'm in. Which tapeworms are you concerned about?

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Claudia Niehoegen — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:26:21 GMT

We use droncit when dogs come to us with advocate. As routine we advise monthly advantage (or three monthly bravecto) and a dual wormer every three months: milbemax , or drontal in collies.

In most dogs it's not necessary to worm every month.

RE: Tapeworm treatments

Neil Wheadon — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:00:37 GMT

This, though Droncit a better solution as just does tapeworms and cheaper

Both made by Bayer (Advocate and Droncit/Drontal)

Interesting comment recently that can't use Milbemycin (Milbemax/Milquantel etc) as VDS issues

Neil