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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/25280/advice-please</link><description> Any advice would be really appreciated, sorry for the anonymous post. 
 I have a client who had a dog and a budgie, she is an old lady and quite unwell. I had a phone call from a friend of the client in November asking about having both the animals PTS</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/172031?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:30:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:383f8ad6-4af5-4264-b8c9-2182ed29db85</guid><dc:creator>Aine Seavers</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Well said Evelyn !&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171997?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:31:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:eb65e7cc-5c5d-42da-aca8-ea676714566e</guid><dc:creator>Thomas Johnson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Rebecca Marchewka&amp;quot;]Anyhow, dog now back with its original owner who is very happy. I have said I will help if she can&amp;#39;t cope with looking after her. The person who has had her in the mean time understands the situation and will take the dog back if the original owner decides that is for the best.[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It sounds like you&amp;#39;ve handled this very well, and a good outcome for the dog too!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171995?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:08:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:72cecbaf-d718-4bfe-8eb1-b5919b29c2f0</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Brill.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Happy New Year to everyone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Martin That would definitely have been a contract killing, not an euthanasia&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;img src="/emoticons/v2/kiss.png" alt="Kiss" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171985?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:35:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:1af9d742-1b05-43d8-b248-54b671860600</guid><dc:creator>Rebecca Marchewka</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi everyone,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thank you for you thoughts. Really helpful to get some opinions while thinking about what to do for the best.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am the OP - no longer anonymous as all the people involved are now fully aware of the situation. I suppose there was never any need to be anonymous, I was just feeling a bit paranoid / worried about the situation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyhow, dog now back with its original owner who is very happy. I have said I will help if she can&amp;#39;t cope with looking after her. The person who has had her in the mean time understands the situation and will take the dog back if the original owner decides that is for the best.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All in all the best outcome I think.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks again&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Becky&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171976?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:22:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:af17f549-2ab9-46de-9def-86f45b9bdf61</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It sounds like the situation is being resolved. But as for your dilemma when the dog was brought in as a &amp;#39;stray&amp;#39; then I would not have dealt with it any differently from any other stray - contact the owner and if not able to, call the dog warden to collect it and let them deal with it. It is not your responsibility to get involved in the politics of who has/ what happens to the dog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In any event I would not be euthanasing anything until I had consent forms signed by the owner in person in my presence and the fee paid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171974?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:56:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3024dad4-380f-4c3d-95db-1adfa89a0790</guid><dc:creator>An On MRCVS</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Update on the situation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First thing this am the &amp;#39;new owner&amp;#39;of the dog was on the phone wanting her returning. On vds advice I told her that a dog matching the description has been brought in and that she has a chip and I can only deal with the registered keeper.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Spoke to the original owner who was, I think, pleased the dog is alive and thinks she would like her back. I am going round to see the owner this am to see what she wants to do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171966?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:55:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a8b85c51-f4f1-4c88-874b-94474b63f2cf</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;The dog wasn&amp;#39;t presented to the veterinary surgeon pre-rehoming. I hope AnOn finds a satisfactory solution for everybody, including the dog. Maybe rehoming with a veterinary surgeon will be acceptable for the owner, as I think her original motivation was that her dog wouldn&amp;#39;t end up in a bad home.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171965?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:05:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:9e2e465b-082a-49d1-9007-1767d6c801f0</guid><dc:creator>Braden Collins</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Talk to the owner and go from there. You&amp;#39;re not to blame but you&amp;#39;ve got to find a resolution. Good luck.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171962?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:45:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:70aed002-5d67-41c2-8ec5-ce64181ba0b1</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not sure you people are reading what the OP has written.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He or she has behaved in exemplary fashion so far.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Never mind how this situation has come about, it is the situation now. Clearly if the dog is to be euthanased &lt;em&gt;now, &lt;/em&gt;the OP has got to obtain the request and consent from the owner all over again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So there is no reason why he or she should not attempt to persuade the owner otherwise, if he or she so wishes.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171961?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 23:08:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2c72ac4d-32fe-4b18-beb5-67ed12fbb762</guid><dc:creator>David Mills</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Pts. Personally think you&amp;#39;re overthinking it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171958?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 22:18:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:1cf018b4-7641-4c59-80fb-45931702bccc</guid><dc:creator>Robin Grimmer</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Your responsibilities are to the animals and the owner, not the friend. Euthanasia of healthy animals is outlined in the g to pc. You don&amp;#39;t have to pts (although in many cases this may unfortunately be the best thing) but if you have agreed euthanasia with the owner then that is what you should have done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171954?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 22:02:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:7e2cc178-57cd-4746-9e88-8a26915bfaca</guid><dc:creator>An On MRCVS</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The whole thing is really sad. The little dog is now asleep in front of my fire. Tomorrow I will speak to the VDS and go from there. The owner&amp;#39;s friend was uncomfortable about PTS a healthy little dog and I can understand this. She was put in a difficult situation and she did what she thought was for the best.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171951?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:52:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:9436407a-8b98-4438-9ff1-b577a0869eae</guid><dc:creator>Michael Woodhouse</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Right, then dump the friend in it. Who needs friends like that. I&amp;#39;d be furious.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171950?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:47:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:7565940f-d233-45bd-8e06-8771af268c7f</guid><dc:creator>An On MRCVS</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I did agree to PTS them both. Arranged to collect them from the owners house. It was the owner&amp;#39;s friend who decided to rehome them. I wan&amp;#39;t happy about the PTS but felt in the circumstances it was the least worst option. I didn&amp;#39;t speak to the owner or see the animals during this period. If they had been presented to me for PTS I would have done it but this didn&amp;#39;t happen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171947?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:22:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3ba12639-d69f-46c2-8127-f725ff3a5f77</guid><dc:creator>Michael Woodhouse</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;d have followed the owner&amp;#39;s wishes and PTS in the first place and then you&amp;#39;d not be in this mess.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171945?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:14:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:7dfeb3e7-d8f3-4c68-a07b-b46f1dd2c6c0</guid><dc:creator>Nicola Cole</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I would probably run the details past the VDS....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171942?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 20:51:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:20576bca-1c15-4f05-9a3f-6c0e7e2ab329</guid><dc:creator>Claudia Niehoegen</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would speak to the original owner asap. It will be difficult to be honest without outing the friend as having gone against her will. But when it comes to PTS everybody has to be comfortable with it, the vet as well as the friend who takes the pet there. Maybe you could Portrait it as such which is very close to the truth. Also, sick people can make decisions they later regret. Maybe she&amp;#39;ll be happy to be reunited with her pet? You could share it: you have it over night and taking it on long walks on weekends, she during the day when you work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, the friend needs to know, and the new owner. Maybe the dog escaped after all the upheaval?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Advice Please</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/171935?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:52:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e33a77a7-4cc2-4f05-b48c-37173e8e9b74</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Horrible situation to be in, especially if it&amp;#39;s a nice healthy dog. Try visiting the owner, and attempting to reason with her. Very very sad situation. I don&amp;#39;t envy you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>