illegal use of illegal imports by breeders

Re: illegal use of illegal imports by breeders

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:50:38 GMT

Well, as I understand it the fraud (fraudulent certificate) in the case described was committed against the purchaser.

But in any case, any investigation or prosecution is not going to get far if the new owner declines to make a statement or give evidence.

Re: illegal use of illegal imports by breeders

vs0u — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:01:24 GMT

But why should it be anything to do with the new owner? The crime is against the government not the new owner.

It's like saying that the owner of a second hand car should take the previous owner to court if they find out that a repair was carried out by an illegal immigrant, or using a stolen part!

Surely it ought to be the VMD's job.

Re: illegal use of illegal imports by breeders

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:45:21 GMT

[quote user="hannah wynne richards"]Where do we go next ?[/quote]

Trading Standards, every time. They are apparently under employed and love exerting power.

But if the new owner doesn't want to get involved, it's a waste of time.

Re: illegal use of illegal imports by breeders

toby travis — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:13:12 GMT

I agree, this is a scandal.

6 months ago I was presented with a Persian kitten together with a so called vaccination certificate saying that the kitten had had its 1st vaccine. I noticed that the the certfiicate was from a practice in Cornwall yet the kitten was purchased from Somerset. Indeed it was colour photocopy of a blank vaccination card from the Cornwall practice who had no knowledge of the kitten or the breeder. Intervet said that the batch number was not from a vaccine in this country and must have been imported.

Neither the RCVS or the VMD were interested. The practice partner in Cornwall was understandably upset that his practice stationery was being copied and used fraudulently and was told that his only avenues of complaint were trading standards in Somerset or the Governing council of the Cat Fancy as she was a registered breeder. The case is finally going before their disciplinary committee later this year (the new owner and myself have both submitted evidence).

One imagines that the RCVS or VMD would come down very hard on us if we issued an incorrect certificate or allowed a cat to be vaccinated without any veterinary examination or used an illegally imported vaccine yet they aren't interested by such a case as this.

Re: illegal use of illegal imports by breeders

Hannah Wynne Richards — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:38:58 GMT

This is a major problem in this part of the world The notorious West Wales puppy farmers frequently buy vaccines in Eire, where over - the -counter sales are legal, bring them back unrefrigerated on the ferry, and vaccinate their own puppies. I often have puppies presented which have merely a breeders "evidence " that they have had their 1st vaccine I always refuse to cary out a 2nd vaccine, and insist on revaccinating from scratch. I also advise the new owner to report this to the police, for illegal importation is a criminal offence, and should be treated as such. This is where the probs start

a)many owners answered a free-ads advert, which gave a mobile number as contact, and then met the "helpful " breeder at the motor-way service station

b)many owners do not want to be involved in a possible court case

c)the police are not interested

Where do we go next ?

Wynne Richards