Linear foreign body

RE: Linear foreign body

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:43:27 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]A simple typo; you've sometimes plagUed me.....[/quote]

But all in the best possible taste!

RE: Linear foreign body

Anthony Todd — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:34:11 GMT

[quote user="Gillian Mostyn"] I've never plaged in my life[/quote]

A simple typo; you've sometimes plagUed me.....

RE: Linear foreign body

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 19:05:57 GMT

[quote user="Clive Ansell"]Get off. I said it first you plagiarist you [/quote]

Don't you call me a plagiarist. I've never plaged in my life!

RE: Linear foreign body

Clive Ansell — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 18:58:49 GMT

[quote user="Gillian Mostyn"]

[quote user="Clive Ansell"]maybe it didn't? maybe the first FB was expelled and then the cat ingested FB2 - who knows??.[/quote]

we replied at the same time.... great minds.... eh?

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Get off. I said it first you plagiarist you

RE: Linear foreign body

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 18:46:26 GMT

[quote user="Clive Ansell"]maybe it didn't? maybe the first FB was expelled and then the cat ingested FB2 - who knows??.[/quote]

we replied at the same time.... great minds.... eh?

RE: Linear foreign body

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 18:45:20 GMT

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]I take it the fb wasn't discovered until they went to the second vet. [/quote]

They found a thread - but the cat may have only picked up that thread the day before. There is absolutely no way to know.

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]Who then cut the thread free from the tongue, but was that reasonable to just leave it at that?[/quote]

You would have to presume, therefore, that when the cat was presented that day, it was actually pretty well. Maybe the thread had just been sitting in oesophagus/stomach - causing only 'mild' symptoms? Until it was released.... so who carries the 'blame' for the cat dying???

Really tricky case - I think the correct decision was reached (but with a slap on the wrist for poor communication and record keeping).

RE: Linear foreign body

Clive Ansell — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 18:41:27 GMT

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]I'm not judging him, but I can't believe a linear fb case could drag on for over a month.[/quote]

maybe it didn't? maybe the first FB was expelled and then the cat ingested FB2 - who knows??. All cases on linear FB I have dealt with have deteriorated very quickly, I just can't understand one dragging on for a month.

RE: Linear foreign body

Robin Grimmer — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 18:39:15 GMT

And they made quite a big deal over the steroid injection, unlikely to do any harm at all. I take it the fb wasn't discovered until they went to the second vet. Who then cut the thread free from the tongue, but was that reasonable to just leave it at that? It sounds as if he were more at fault.

RE: Linear foreign body

Thomas Johnson — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 18:32:53 GMT

[quote user="Gillian Mostyn"]

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]The respondent was cleared of misconduct[/quote]

His decision making might, with the benefit of hindsight, be seen as wrong - but presumably he did what he thought was best at the time and with the information he had available to him. There is a big difference between 'bad clinical decisions' (which we can all be guilty of when judged with the retrospectoscope) and causing harm due to negligence/misconduct etc. No?

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I agree, there is certainly a big question over his clinical decision making in this case, though I'm sure we've all made decisions that in hindsight we realise were wrong. I also wouldn't have thought this was gross-misconduct.

RE: Linear foreign body

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 18:18:31 GMT

I agree - it obviously wasn't a straight-forward case because, if it was, the cat would be very dead after a week, let alone a month.

I find those the worst kind of cases - FBs where the signs/degree of illness are atypical.

RE: Linear foreign body

Robin Grimmer — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 17:55:00 GMT

I'm not judging him, but I can't believe a linear fb case could drag on for over a month.

RE: Linear foreign body

Hannah Wynne Richards — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 17:48:07 GMT

I thought linear foriegn bodies should always be operated on - but I used to think that about swallowed pieces of glass as well

Wynne

RE: Linear foreign body

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 03 Feb 2016 15:59:52 GMT

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]The respondent was cleared of misconduct[/quote]