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Hannah Wynne Richards — Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:51:25 GMT

I agree with Ruths

Wynne

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ruths — Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:02:25 GMT

In reply to the OP, I think it's a brilliant thing that so many vets are involved in charity in all its guises- and I think we should recognise that.

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ruths — Sun, 08 Nov 2015 08:57:56 GMT

[quote user="Malcolm Ness"]

[quote user="ruths"]Could you expand on that a little?[/quote]

I don't think that rape is funny, and I can't imagine how it might be.

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Thanks- I obviously didn't understand your post above...

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Malcolm Ness — Sun, 08 Nov 2015 08:30:58 GMT

[quote user="ruths"]Could you expand on that a little?[/quote]

I don't think that rape is funny, and I can't imagine how it might be.

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ruths — Sun, 08 Nov 2015 07:16:35 GMT

[quote user="Malcolm Ness"]

[quote user="Francisco Gomez"] but posting meant he was doing a disservice to the community[/quote]

Francisco, I think that most people would lack the imagination to see the humour in rape and consequently I think that your apocryphal policeman was castigated for his poor taste/exceptional imagination. His status as policeman seems irrelevant.

Perhaps I am missing your point.

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'lack the imagination to see the humour in rape'

Could you expand on that a little? I am not sure I quite understand what you are saying. Don't tell me I have no imagination, though -)))

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Malcolm Ness — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:45:20 GMT

[quote user="J G Wray"] You don't have to put your whole life with all its facets on social media.[/quote]

I do miss your recipes.

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Malcolm Ness — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:43:46 GMT

[quote user="Francisco Gomez"] but posting meant he was doing a disservice to the community[/quote]

Perhaps I am missing your point.

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Francisco Gomez — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 08:01:24 GMT

[quote user="J G Wray"]

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

. So what floats your boat Jon?

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D'ya know something? You don't have to put your whole life with all its facets on social media.

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D'ya know something? We could all say the same about internet forums ...

Once upon a time, a policeman answered with approval to a rape joke in social media, to look friendly, in response to a football team that had lost a match. People, mostly women, thought that it was outrageous that a policeman would write something like that. A policeman should lead by example, writing something like that for others to read is only fuelling and providing a justification for those that commit the offence. If he thought that the joke was funny, he was in his right to laugh and walk, but posting meant he was doing a disservice to the community.

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J G Wray — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 07:24:25 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

. So what floats your boat Jon?

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D'ya know something? You don't have to put your whole life with all its facets on social media. It is possible to be selective. For those who find social media " compulsive" even "addictive" this might prove challenging. Anyone for a thread on personal bowel movements, perhaps using the Bristol chart?

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Anthony Dennison — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 17:03:04 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]So what floats your boat Jon?[/quote]

Conspiracy theories?

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Martin Atkinson — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 16:56:18 GMT

[quote user="J G Wray"]Cycling - MAMIL - Yawn[/quote]You're miles behind, I'm way beyond a MAMIL I'm an OMIL! But being I've been cycling seriously since I was 15 (thus a YMIL I guess) and still as fit as a butcher's dog and as slim as a whippet I think I can be forgiven. So what floats your boat Jon?

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J G Wray — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 16:41:34 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]I've watched the video and I see what you mean Francisco, your style needs improvement - far to much upper body and arm movement wasting your energy[/quote]

Cycling - MAMIL - Yawn

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 15:39:09 GMT

[quote user="Francisco Gomez"] I cycle around the country when I feel like it lol (still a challenge for me!) [/quote]I've watched the video and I see what you mean Francisco, your style needs improvement - far to much upper body and arm movement wasting your energy.

My third job was in Eastwood in 1976, from what I recall it didn't look as though it had changed since the days of DH Lawrence. The practice was so awful I gave in my notice in at the end of the first week and lasted precisely 5 weeks. Mind you that wasn't a lot shorter than some of the others, I got through 5 jobs in 2 years!! Hopefully things have moved on since then!

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Francisco Gomez — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 15:25:20 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

I do however wish you luck but forgive me if I continue to give to the charities I support

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You are, of course, forgiven Martin.

For Martin and for others that are already doing their bit, my post is not only a call for funds, but also a way to raise awareness.

So the reason of my cringey videos is so they can be posted/shared in social media too ;-) So feel free to share the website in my previous post, or simply Like/Share any content in https://www.facebook.com/thegovet/ with the hashtag #letourdefran

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 14:22:32 GMT

[quote user="Francisco Gomez"]and if you don't fancy helping me, you can always laugh at how I morph from vet to cyclist in the provided video...[/quote]As I've already said in another thread, I've given up asking to be sponsored for something that in the end is just a sponsored holiday however challenging it may be for the participant - last time was climbing Kilimanjaro 10 years ago, and I won't directly sponsor others for the same reason (OK I appreciate that you are covering your costs) so I politely decline. I do however wish you luck but forgive me if I continue to give to the charities I support, some of which are those you are raising money for anyway.

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Francisco Gomez — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:04:03 GMT

... so we started about charity and end up about VAT right? Isn't that another missed tangent?

Well... I'll just remind you all that I'm fundraising now for what I call #letourdefran where I cycle around the country when I feel like it lol (still a challenge for me!) and will end up joining a group from London to Paris for my last 500K...

None of the money collected goes to fund the challenge, from cameras, bike to the London to Paris group, everything is paid by myself and all the money is split equally between the charities.

... and if you don't fancy helping me, you can always laugh at how I morph from vet to cyclist in the provided video...

http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/letourdefran

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 10:41:14 GMT

[quote user="Thomas Johnson"]I think it would be difficult to do it any other way as some small farms, particularly hobby farmers, probably don't turn over enough to be VAT registered.[/quote]But the dichotomy is that the produce they sell isn't VAT registered.

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Thomas Johnson — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 10:19:48 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

[quote user="Thomas Johnson"] veterinary costs are not as essential purchase and it is appropriate for VAT to be added to our fees.[/quote]That made me think - is VAT added to fees for farm clients or do they just claim the VAT back so adding it in the first place is a pointless exercise?

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I'm sure someone with current knowledge will be along shortly, but from what I remember when I worked in mixed practice VAT was added to farm animal accounts, and then if they could they claimed it back. I think it would be difficult to do it any other way as some small farms, particularly hobby farmers, probably don't turn over enough to be VAT registered.

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 09:44:25 GMT

Arlo Any mention of taxation is like a red rag to a bull as far as I'm concerned Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Francisco. The government has a moral obligation to minimise theft Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Martin Farmer's pay VAT, then reclaim it - nice little earner for accountants.

Wynne

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 09:12:45 GMT

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Thomas Johnson — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 09:02:05 GMT

[quote user="Arlo Guthrie"]

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]Jonathan and Arlo. You're often arguing, but you seem to be united in deliberately winding me up![/quote]

Not sure I understand. I'm not arguing with JGW, and not trying to wind you up. Genuinely not sure what makes vets noteworthy for the fact that they collect VAT. Suspect I must be missing something.

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I don't think you're missing anything! Owning a pet is not a right, so veterinary costs are not as essential purchase and it is appropriate for VAT to be added to our fees.

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Francisco Gomez — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:54:45 GMT

THAT would be winding you up!

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Francisco Gomez — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:53:58 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"] Don't get me started on the evils of taxation

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It is true though what Jon is saying.. the collection from VAT is really a godsend for the community. I would go as far as to say that we should probably start telling our accountants to avoid exploring legal ways of reducing our tax obligations. At the end of the day, it seems ludicruous, selfish and unnecessary to stop paying this fantastic aid to the community. Can we really be proud of our dedication if we complain and try to legally avoid our most basic moral duty?

Don't you agree Wynne?

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Arlo Guthrie — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:47:25 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]Jonathan and Arlo. You're often arguing, but you seem to be united in deliberately winding me up![/quote]

Not sure I understand. I'm not arguing with JGW, and not trying to wind you up. Genuinely not sure what makes vets noteworthy for the fact that they collect VAT. Suspect I must be missing something.

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:28:25 GMT

Jonathan and Arlo. You're often arguing, but you seem to be united in deliberately winding me up!

Don't get me started on the evils of taxation

I have enormous admiration for RSPCA Inspectors but their telephonists seem to be recruited exclusively from the ranks of doctor's receptionists

Wynne