Not for profit animal rescues and educating clients

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Martin Atkinson — Fri, 29 May 2015 13:53:28 GMT

[quote user="Francisco Gomez"]You don't run Martin, your knees don't do well with running, that's why you prefer cycling[/quote]Very true so i wouldn't try a marathon any more but I still run 4-5 miles twice a week. And I'm off for a 200 mile bike ride this weekend. Pity I won't be around to referee the cup final being as its Arsenal playing and I could award them a dodgy penalty or two.

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Bob Russell — Fri, 29 May 2015 12:35:40 GMT

A moderator might step in at this stage suggesting the subject has drifted somewhat!

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Francisco Gomez — Fri, 29 May 2015 11:16:23 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

and cycling - and skiing!

[/quote]You've forgotten the running, gym, tennis and badminton!

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You don't run Martin, your knees don't do well with running, that's why you prefer cycling...

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Martin Atkinson — Fri, 29 May 2015 10:41:00 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

and cycling - and skiing!

[/quote]You've forgotten the running, gym, tennis and badminton!

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 29 May 2015 09:04:06 GMT

and cycling - and skiing!

Wynne

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Martin Atkinson — Fri, 29 May 2015 08:58:12 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

[quote user="ALASDAIR MATHIESON"]By the way, I watched the Europa Cup Final last night and the ref was Martin Atkinson! Was that you? Multitalented or what?[/quote]

He's too busy writing for the Vet Times to do that..................

[/quote]I have waited for a long time to see who would the the first to pick up on that. Its a wonder I have time for any work at all with all that travelling to matches and writing.

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J G Wray — Thu, 28 May 2015 22:47:26 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]......I've read your OP 3 times and I still can't quite get what you're trying to say......

[/quote] That'll be the lithium kicking in.

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Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 28 May 2015 21:48:03 GMT

[quote user="ALASDAIR MATHIESON"]By the way, I watched the Europa Cup Final last night and the ref was Martin Atkinson! Was that you? Multitalented or what?[/quote]

He's too busy writing for the Vet Times to do that..................

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Bob Russell — Thu, 28 May 2015 17:38:54 GMT

The general public gets what it wants. A 'nice' photogenic, puppy chosen from the comfort of their home and delivered to the door for a small amount of cash. Few if any questions asked!

Wholesale puppies fit this recipe perfectly.

How many new owners have taken on a puppy because they feel the need to rescue it from the so called breeder? Cash in hand, the dealer happily orders his next lot of puppies, ready for the next lot of mugs!

No income tax, no VAT, no money back, no ....................................

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 28 May 2015 17:11:18 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]My advice to clients is never buy a puppy without visiting the home and making sure that they get a landline number that works![/quote]Mine too (as I suspect it is everyone else's). It is plastered on the wall of the waiting room, all over my website and at least once a year in the local news directory I contribute to with a Pets Corner. Yet still it is the exception that comes in with a nice, clean, healthy pet from a reputable source and has been given the correct advice on feeding, parasite control and vaccination.

[quote user="Bob Russell"]Beyond this I consider the general public almost untrainable![/quote] To try and be fair it is probably the lack of choice due to a preponderance of unscrupulous 'breeders', pet shops and dealers that leads many a pet buyer to make rash decisions as much as their own stupidity. However, whenever I get a trainee nurse, without exception they say something to the effect of; 'I didn't realise how totally useless everyone is as pet owners, including my own parents, until I came to work here'.

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ALASDAIR MATHIESON — Thu, 28 May 2015 16:58:29 GMT

Martin, I see what you mean, you are getting worse! Culloden here and still looking for another vet [ great job in a great location, e-mail or phone for details ]

By the way, I watched the Europa Cup Final last night and the ref was Martin Atkinson! Was that you? Multitalented or what?

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Bob Russell — Thu, 28 May 2015 16:24:51 GMT

[quote user="J G Wray"]

[quote user="Bob Russell"]Beyond this I consider the general public almost untrainable![/quote]

Is there any possibility that you might be contributing, by word or deed, to the public's lack of response to you - just suggestin'?

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Luca Poddighe — Thu, 28 May 2015 15:21:59 GMT

I was only kidding

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 28 May 2015 15:08:52 GMT

[quote user="Luca Poddighe"]It will be bloody if we leave them together [/quote]I'm sure we both prefer to slug it out with a war of words, after all the pen is mightier than the sword. Handbags at 20 paces was never very becoming!

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Luca Poddighe — Thu, 28 May 2015 15:02:45 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]it's only a bloody forum.[/quote]

It will be bloody if we leave them together

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Anthony Todd — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:18:04 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

[quote user="J G Wray"]Oh dear, now for some madness. Isn't it time for you take your medication?[/quote] That's rich coming from the person who takes pride in making the most obscure and at times inflammatory posts. I've read your OP 3 times and I still can't quite get what you're trying to say. Pots, kettles and glass houses come to mind.

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Calm down dears, it's only a bloody forum.

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:16:58 GMT

That story about the mare and foal is truly heartbreaking.

Wynne

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:10:16 GMT

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J G Wray — Thu, 28 May 2015 12:50:46 GMT

[quote user="Wren"]We get this a lot from clients and it drives me mad. 'We rescued the horse from the travellers/gypsies/[insert alternative non-PC term]'. Ah right. And I'm guessing that you traded them a large wad of cash for the privilege of rescuing it? [/quote]

One of my members of staff did this. The mare got larger and larger and then, because nature is truly a miraculous thing, a foal appeared. This was hard work. Then when the foal was six months old the mare and foal disappeared from the field....

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J G Wray — Thu, 28 May 2015 12:46:23 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]Beyond this I consider the general public almost untrainable![/quote]

Is there any possibility that you might be contributing, by word or deed, to the public's lack of response to you - just suggestin'?

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Bob Russell — Thu, 28 May 2015 11:26:37 GMT

My advice to clients is never buy a puppy without visiting the home and making sure that they get a landline number that works!

Beyond this I consider the general public almost untrainable!

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Anthony Dennison — Thu, 28 May 2015 11:17:37 GMT

[quote user="J G Wray"]

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]]The problem is that people who are stupid enough to do things like this usually lead the rest of their lives in the same way, lurching from crisis to crisis, are likely to be unemployed/poorly paid and are the ones who can't afford to pay to pick up the pieces when everything goes tits up then expect us to treat their pets for nothing. .[/quote]

Oh dear, now for some madness. Isn't it time for you take your medication?

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To be fair to Martin, I have seen clients go through situations where they get a knock-off puppy from a lay-by, puppy soon dies, new owners distraught. Within a month they've seen another lovely puppy on gumtree, surprise surprise, it was another sick pup that either dies or needs intensive treatment

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Luca Poddighe — Thu, 28 May 2015 10:27:23 GMT

I've to say that there was no problems on the bill side, and although they didn't pursue for long and extensive therapy when it was clear that the poor puppy was in a lot of troubles they were very understanding and they looked to be genuinely sorry.

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J G Wray — Thu, 28 May 2015 10:19:47 GMT

Oh dear, now for some madness. Isn't it time for you take your medication?

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Martin Atkinson — Thu, 28 May 2015 09:53:12 GMT

[quote user="Luca Poddighe"]I've explained them that they did a very stupid thing buying a dog from an internet advert having as single contact a mobile phone number (guess what? it started to ring dead half an hour after the puppy was collected) and going to collect in a motorway service. Not that they didn't know it was stupid.[/quote]The problem is that people who are stupid enough to do things like this usually lead the rest of their lives in the same way, lurching from crisis to crisis, are likely to be unemployed/poorly paid and are the ones who can't afford to pay to pick up the pieces when everything goes tits up then expect us to treat their pets for nothing. .