small animal surgery disinfectant

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Alan Tevendale — Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:56:06 GMT

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[quote user="Andrew Mellor"]anigene was the only one all staff were happy with.[/quote]

Then continue with that. It's not suddenly stopped being a disinfectant.

(we use Anigene inside and FAM 30 for farm stuff)

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+1 for Anigene for small animal and FAM 30 for farm

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Bob Russell — Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:17:01 GMT

Hopefully I did manage to correct my earlier post! The obvious bad feeling and dodgy tack ticks seem to have gone on for decades!

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

faye sewell — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:59:15 GMT

HI Bob, Anistel is made by the company that DIDN'T sell Trigene. Trigene was sold by Medichem International Marketing, now MEDIMARK SCIENTIFIC who replaced Trigene with ANIGENE; you might recognise the same livery

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I suspect there is an element of the dirty tricks brigade returning. There has always been a major issue and bad feeling between the company making Trigene (Anistel) and those selling it.

As I understand it Anigene is manufactured by the people that used to sell Trigene, not make it! From memory Trigene was not DEFRA approved for much of its life either.

http://www.medi-mark.co.uk/?/news/article/where_defra_aproval_is_required/

I have to say these sales tricks have prevented me from having any dealings with the Anistel makers. DEFRA approval is not a requirement and does not indicate a weak product. It simply means that in the face of a notifiable disease outbreak the product should not be used (officially). We have a small tub of Virkon tablets for use in that eventuality!

Do you want to deal with a company that works by these ethics?

Beaten to it by an industry member!!

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Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Bob Russell — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:47:40 GMT

In line with the confusingly similar names I have edited my post. Unless I have got it wrong again Anigene (Medichem) are the ones that have always behaved correctly and never slagged off the opposition. Anistel are (I think!!) the ones that have what I consider dubious sales tactics.

If I have got it wrong again I will retire mumbling Anigene, Anistel, Anigene until the happy pills kick in! Apologies to the good guys and to the bad guys!

Pet Remedy anyone?

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Bob Russell — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:37:49 GMT

As if by magic an email wings its way to us within an hour regarding Anigene NaDCC!

Never had any problems with any of the Anigene range and intend to stick with it. I did miss the 'Christmas' scented Anigene last year!

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

faye sewell — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:04:41 GMT

There is no legal need to use a Defra approved disinfectant if you run a vets surgery, kennel or cattery, unless there is an outbreak of a notifiable animal disease. It’s most unfortunate thatcompetitors resort to scaremongering and such activities should be ignored; perhaps it would be best to contact the direct if they have concerns? I know that MEDIMARK SCIENTIFIC is re-testing but probably recognises that DEFRA APPROVAL at dilutions like 1:2 is in reality somewhat impractical. I know that they’ve launched another product called ANIGENE NaDCC in the event of a notifiable disease outbreak which has very good dilutions. As far as I’m aware ANIGENE HLD4V still has the broadest spectrum of testing and in dirty conditions for things like Parvovirus so there’s the DEFRA element relay has no impact.

Please conact me direct if you would like more information or a visit.

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Rob Watkins — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:16:44 GMT

Sorry Bob!

Although your reply was much more eloquent...

(Hence took longer to type!!!)

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Bob Russell — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:06:08 GMT

I suspect there is an element of the dirty tricks brigade returning. There has always been a major issue and bad feeling between the company making Trigene (Anistel) and those selling it.

As I understand it Anigene is manufactured by the people that used to sell Trigene, not make it! From memory Trigene was not DEFRA approved for much of its life either.

http://www.medi-mark.co.uk/?/news/article/where_defra_aproval_is_required/

Do you want to deal with a company that works by these ethics?

Beaten to it by an industry member!!

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Rob Watkins — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:05:02 GMT

If you're being badgered by reps... become very, very suspicious (I speak from experience!)

Straight from the horse's (well anigene's) mouth...

http://www.medi-mark.co.uk/?/news/article/where_defra_aproval_is_required/

There is no legislation suggesting you have to use DEFRA approved disinfectants.

Completely un-connected with any of these companies BTW so for once an unbiased reply!

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Rob Davis — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:32:22 GMT

We use Anistel, and no problems reported by staff, but as Michael said, I can't see why anigene should suddenly have stopped working. Have you tried contacting DEFRA to see why they no longer recommend it?

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:05:24 GMT

[quote user="Andrew Mellor"]anigene was the only one all staff were happy with.[/quote]

Then continue with that. It's not suddenly stopped being a disinfectant.

(we use Anigene inside and FAM 30 for farm stuff)

Re: small animal surgery disinfectant

Andrew Mellor — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:02:15 GMT

ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT.