The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Eamon McAllister — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 18:15:57 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

Tell an owner a lot of unproven stuff, and call it homeopathy, and you're ok.

Wynne

[/quote] Ignore the Cascade legislation completely, prescribe a remedy prepared by knocking the container against a leather and horsehair surface to confer a molecular level "memory" and you are still ok.

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:10:26 GMT

A solution looking for a problem

Wynne

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Anthony Todd — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:34:56 GMT

ADR is great for resolving disputes over money so I can't see where the RCVS comes in, unless it is to discipline vets over conduct or treatment.

I'd love to see an actual case worked through as there is already the County Court, who also have a dispute resolution section, and judges get rather cross if that hasn't been pursued first, before Court.

I've been through both and the process is simple and fair [and cheaper than going to law!] so why or where or how the RCVS is to be interposed , and under what circumstances, is not clear to me.

Will they be acting as expert witnesses, or judge or jury or just confusing everyone?

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Bob Russell — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:25:16 GMT

I think Nick Stace has tried hard to bring a degree of professionalism to the ~RCVS and should be given credit for it. With this come business speak and a degree of openness that I suspect is opposed by a number of people on the committee. Has to be much better than the old guard at Belgravia House who considered the profession (if at all) inconvenient and unimportant.

As someone who hold all things homeopathic with derision I still feel able to come to Mark Elliotts defence. He really does seem very committed to the whole profession and seems to be a good member of council.

ADR has been tried and found to be of little interest to the general public. Have there been any cases referred to it and is there an indication of whether either side found it useful?

I have always felt it was a bit of a solution looking for a problem!

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Anthony Dennison — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:48:18 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]Tell an owner a lot of unproven stuff, and call it homeopathy, and you're ok.[/quote]

My Goodness. I'm in total agreement with Wynne for once. Think I might go have a lie down.

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:25:32 GMT

Somebody correct me if I've got it wrong. Tell an owner what you think(have worked out from>30 years observation in practice) - if it can't be proven from published papers, you get crucified.

Tell an owner a lot of unproven stuff, and call it homeopathy, and you're ok.

Wynne

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:21:11 GMT

ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution.

Got that from the news column,so(at last) I know what the subject under discussion actually is.

Wynne

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Eamon McAllister — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:01:47 GMT

[quote user="james herriot lied"]

How far can a regulator go before its members are able to demonstrate a vote of no confidence? If, for example, five out of six in the profession withheld their votes for council, would that send a suitably clear message? If the members galvanised against nonsensical and muddy DC judgments, would that provide food for thought? And should the turkeys actually still have to pay for the Christmas axes?

I'm just going to come out and say it: I'm not sure the RCVS is on my side. If only they had some kind of mission statement telling us which side of the fence they're on..........

[/quote] 1. Five out of six members already withhold their votes. 2. They are not on your side and... 3. They are sitting on that fence. ......... but you probably know that already and are simply being provocative.

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Gerry Henry — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:33:51 GMT

Want a real laugh, have a look at the biography of the PIC vice chairman, you were closer to the mark than you think.

http://www.rcvs.org.uk/about-us/rcvs-council/council-members/mark-elliott/

They are most definitely not on your/our side, but to be fair they're not supposed to be, they are supposed to be even handed however my personal experience suggests that they are decidedly not. If they can find fault, any fault, they will. So glad I'm going out and not coming in.

Re: The ADR: a form of homeopathy?

Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:39:49 GMT

What on earth does ADR mean?

Wynne