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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/21045/anybody-unhappy-sending-their-signature-as-a-file-to-improve-international</link><description> I registered with Improve International to keep my &amp;quot;grandfather&amp;#39;s (grandmother&amp;#39;s?) rights. To get my registration I had to make a scan of my signature and attach it as a file on my application document. Am I alone to feel uneasy about this? 
 Mariette</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127379?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2015 08:47:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c6732f36-8c13-4ddd-82db-0c7a3f549802</guid><dc:creator>Hannah Wynne Richards</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Gareth I presume tese are internal (attempted) frauds.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Surely the criminals must have had access to the practice cheque book?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wynne&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127374?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:25:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a36d9fbc-9a72-4b41-ab8f-0345038e3dca</guid><dc:creator>Sammy82</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This is a bank security issue then. Surely they must not rely on a signature for proof of identity! As mentioned before, our signatures(veterinary or not) are everywhere and could be copied by anyone you ever signed anything for: postman, car dealer, everyone you ever payed by cheque ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As several others I have no issue with sending a digital copy of my signature, but I seriously doubt the legal value.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127366?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:57:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3114844d-c236-4d73-88c0-1fb286866b87</guid><dc:creator>Gareth C.</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Mark Hedberg&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Evelyn Barbour-Hill&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very unhappy. My solution was to invent another signature for this purpose only.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My father had at least two different signatures which he employed daily.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve used 3 signatures for ages anyway; veterinary, banking/legal, and personal. (The vet one is the quick squiggle we all know and love.)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;good advice, &amp;nbsp;we have several attempted frauds (one successful) with people trying to wihtdraw money and cash cheques using vets&amp;#39; signatures in a bank. . &amp;nbsp;I am working on a new veterinary one now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127279?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:26:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0d66e7cc-7e93-4191-b885-90eaa5f6e675</guid><dc:creator>Mark Hedberg</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Evelyn Barbour-Hill&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very unhappy. My solution was to invent another signature for this purpose only.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My father had at least two different signatures which he employed daily.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve used 3 signatures for ages anyway; veterinary, banking/legal, and personal. (The vet one is the quick squiggle we all know and love.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127271?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:06:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2e0fa8a1-c442-4285-a758-f990c21e8314</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Very unhappy. My solution was to invent another signature for this purpose only.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My father had at least two different signatures which he employed daily.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127117?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:59:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0016f4ba-994d-4d97-b660-dfee7578072b</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;HM Government have decided it is OK therefore it is OK!&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not sure there are enough staff of sufficient calibre to monitor things anyway. It is cheaper to react to a problem than prevent a problem in the first place! Who cares about security anymore?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127113?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2014 09:02:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:73344ca2-294e-4464-9520-4450b246770d</guid><dc:creator>Niall Taylor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Honestly, I dont know what people are worried about. If we can&amp;#39;t trust a private business contracted to do work for a government department, who can we trust?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Niall&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127112?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2014 18:47:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d20cc942-8225-4639-912d-4b89ceeb087a</guid><dc:creator>Stephen Courtney</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;That signature is kept on file so that in the event of a query or audit of your activities as an OV it can be checked by the Ministry Folk.
So it certainly won&amp;#39;t be deleted.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127104?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2014 15:50:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:622fea8c-e554-4a7d-ba3e-c9ad57845d73</guid><dc:creator>mariette asselbergs</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with all of the above postings. &amp;nbsp;I suppose my uneasiness comes from my scanned in signature being accepted as me having signed a document. &amp;nbsp;What is the added value? As many have said: many people have access to my signature to scan in and send as a file, It is the same as just giving my name and some details. &amp;nbsp;I am just not very happy by my signature existing on file send into cyberspace. I hope Improve International deletes it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mariette&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127090?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2014 21:34:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:6ea39dd2-92c9-436f-83b1-88a45bbfa2df</guid><dc:creator>Stephen Courtney</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have no real concerns - by now my signature is scattered across the southern bit of the UK on numerous vaccine cards, prescriptions and other whatnot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think anyone can do any real damage with it, and if someone is determined to forge something then they will regardless, I somehow doubt improve are going to publish our signatures.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127089?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2014 20:26:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:6cf86d70-4b00-4279-ac64-fcdf4bf21021</guid><dc:creator>karen jones</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I didn&amp;#39;t manage to upload my signature useless computer person that&amp;#39;s me😉&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127088?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2014 19:04:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:40db4672-8fde-4c92-8062-5479c9091914</guid><dc:creator>Neil Wheadon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;mariette asselbergs&amp;quot;]&lt;p&gt;What just seems odd to me is that they obviously accept a signature on file as good enough evidence for your OV certificate. &amp;nbsp;If they do that, than anybody could sign such an official thing with a scan of my signature. Seems odd to me in a time of massive ID theft problems.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mariette&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;[/quote]
This would  assume that someone in Improve takes your signature and sends it to someone to send back to them as an official though fake document.
As AHVLA have just about everyones signature on a TB test chart and these are all scanned and a zillion people have a vaccination certificate with a signature, then I really can&amp;#39;t see there being an issue?
    Neil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127084?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2014 00:57:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:6e0c58c9-cd49-48c7-a055-ae86cba599ad</guid><dc:creator>Glenn Hodgson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I was unhappy about it. &amp;nbsp;Then we figured a way I didn&amp;#39;t have to send it to them. &amp;nbsp;Now I am not unhappy about it. &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Happy_smiley.png" alt="Happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127068?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:57:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:665bf7bd-b06d-4dff-a8fd-ca367ec42527</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;mariette asselbergs&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What just seems odd to me is that they obviously accept a signature on file as good enough evidence for your OV certificate. &amp;nbsp;If they do that, than anybody could sign such an official thing with a scan of my signature. Seems odd to me in a time of massive ID theft problems.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]Conspiracy theory time: As DEFRA is a government department I would be very surprised if they don&amp;#39;t have access to your signature somewhere and now the task has been passed to a private contractor (which is something incidentally I disapprove of) they want to check it against an existing copy for the very reasons you state.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127065?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:49:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:7b57738d-ddc3-4681-a627-ab3a54d395a8</guid><dc:creator>mariette asselbergs</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;What just seems odd to me is that they obviously accept a signature on file as good enough evidence for your OV certificate. &amp;nbsp;If they do that, than anybody could sign such an official thing with a scan of my signature. Seems odd to me in a time of massive ID theft problems.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mariette&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127064?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:41:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:542598d6-43b2-43de-a35c-40b7f07f1fdb</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t see why you should any more than than you would over a copy of your signature being kept for your passport, your bank account, credit card or your driving licence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, I just bi-passed that bit, paid me money and took me chance and as far as I&amp;#39;m aware I&amp;#39;m registered although it did say I may be asked later.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Anybody unhappy sending their signature as a file to Improve International?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/127062?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:38:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c3fe9577-8f45-4ef7-921c-c81be0bd5372</guid><dc:creator>Michael Woodhouse</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Someone could scan a vaccination card you signed and get your signature that way, or a cheque or a letter. I have a copy of my signature scanned into my computer and saved for everything but official letters. Works well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not worried.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>