You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Thomas Johnson — Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:42:07 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

When your reaction to Fuciderm being renamed is "Not another one!"

Wynne

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I spoke to the Dechra rep about this last week. Apparently Leo Pharmaceuticals own the rites to use the 'Fuci' part of the name, and when they sold their animal health care division to Vetexx, which has now been swallowed up by Dechra, the use of the name wasn't included in the sale. They have for some unmentioned reason now decided to stop Dechra from using it.

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Lazy Bee — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:06:43 GMT

1967 - £100 pcm, flat & car, 2 weeks hols, evenings and weekends sort of 2 in 3 rota. Oh, and buy your own protective clothing, when I suggested that the practice provide the new plastic gloves (in fact just 2 foot long thin plastic bags) just for cleansings, not even rectals - the Senior Partner nearly had a seizure. And no, I had to buy my own!

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:43:27 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

When your reaction to Fuciderm being renamed is "Not another one!"

Wynne

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I gather from an advertisement in Vet Times that it's now called Fishaderm.

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 14:54:40 GMT

When your reaction to Fuciderm being renamed is "Not another one!"

Wynne

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

bob lehner — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 14:20:05 GMT

In Barcelona last weekend on a busy metro train - young man (well not that young - probably c. 30) insisted I have his seat. Not sure whether to be grateful or mortally offended that he thought I was that decrepit. (Don't think it would happen in London).

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Mike Dale — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:04:00 GMT

or if there were 17 in your year and only 9 in the year above.

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Vet2Vet — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:38:48 GMT

to Martin's morning mirror

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Anthony Todd — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:20:07 GMT

[quote user="Rob Davis"]

You know you're getting old when....... you realise that barring tortoises and probably the occasional equine patient, almost none of the patients that you treated in your first year in practice are still alive....

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Oh, some of mine were lucky to survive my first year! [until I was introduced to B12 and Bets, BOOM BOOM]

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Mark Hedberg — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:15:57 GMT

[quote user="Rob Davis"]

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You don't need to be an old vet to have that happen, just a naff one!

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Rob Davis — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:10:55 GMT

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Anthony Todd — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 07:56:19 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]What my clients have come to expect is no attempts to flog them dog food, and no pestering of other kinds either.[/quote]

But do they like it?

Don't think there's any doubt that you are dinosaureal, but it's your choice ,and I used to agree with you.

I wonder if clients would though? They're there with the shooting brake and bags of diet are heavy......

My dentist sells toothbrushes which, sometimes, is very convenient for patients......

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 23:37:25 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]

With today's case and op load the financial contribution made by product sales is much more significant and clients have come to expect it as well.

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What my clients have come to expect is no attempts to flog them dog food, and no pestering of other kinds either.

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Anthony Todd — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:21:06 GMT

[quote user="Malcolm Ness"]I struggle to understand the management types who seem to judge the worth of a veterinary practice by how much dog food it sells.[/quote]

Back in the day, with an appointment book like my scan and an ops. book to match, it was easy to have "integrity" and I was overruled by my two partners, then, fairly quickly anyway.....

With today's case and op load the financial contribution made by product sales is much more significant and clients have come to expect it as well.

One supplier of note, initially, promised us their products would all be definitely vet only so it seems there was "commercial integrity" and "veterinary integrity" . Available everywhere within a year or two once vets had established the ready market......

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Robert Jenkins — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:41:42 GMT

Memories of using ether and the nurse melting the frozen condensation on the glass jar 'vapouriser' by immersing it in a bowl of warm water.

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Malcolm Ness — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 09:24:11 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]Maybe. But you had integrity.[/quote]

I struggle to understand the management types who seem to judge the worth of a veterinary practice by how much dog food it sells.

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:06:39 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]

Great decisions I made:

1. Sell Pet Food? "No! We're not grocers!" In the early days of Pedigree Petfood.

2. Pet Insurance proposed to me by Patsy Bloom herself [and look where she got to]. "No way, Ba Humbug, insurance salesmen, pah"

So you can see I had great vision and foresight......

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Maybe. But you had integrity.

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Joyce Whitehead — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:21:24 GMT

Actually we still do every other weekend Wren, but that's because I married a vet and we cover the equine/SA between us! Although our first practice we would work all day Saturday and Sunday with a 3 hour open as surgery Sunday morning....

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Wren — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:51:59 GMT

[quote user="Joyce Whitehead"]But every other night and weekend on call....

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Some of us are doing that in 2014!!

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Anthony Todd — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 12:02:54 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]So good for developing bacterial resistance......[/quote]

Yeah, loads of it, it's on eBay, FFS!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/331372530863?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&chn=ps&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108&ff19=0

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Bob Russell — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 10:42:29 GMT

Vets were held in high regard! More highly trained than doctors - the course is longer, six years!!

RCVS was someone to pay money to each year but otherwise kept their noses out of day to day practice. Not even heard of the PIC or DC!

Veterinary Drug Company, with twice daily delivery from down the road. Farm post-mortems and lab work done FOC to benefit food production. Every other patient getting a good dose of antibiotics and steroids but magically getting better, most of the time.

Less stress from treating animals because client expectation was more realistic BUT horrific stress because of longer hours and zilch life/work balance. Vaccinations a tenner (oops! that is still the same in some practices)

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Utlendigur — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 10:41:32 GMT

[quote user="tess"]minimal back up. Remember phoning for help with my first bitch caesar to be told "just get on with it".[/quote]

Similar experience - 1st night on call 10days into 1st job in a "supportive practice" and I had a GDV in a huge vicious german shepherd. Got it to the surgery, on a drip, decompressed with a needle then phoned my boss as I couldn't do any more single handed. Response was "isn't there anyone else who can help you?"

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Anthony Todd — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 10:39:25 GMT

[quote user="robin scott"]chloro great for eyes [/quote]

And still available over the counter now...... Go figure!!

So good for developing bacterial resistance.......

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Anthony Todd — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 10:08:12 GMT

Great decisions I made:

1. Sell Pet Food? "No! We're not grocers!" In the early days of Pedigree Petfood.

2. Pet Insurance proposed to me by Patsy Bloom herself [and look where she got to]. "No way, Ba Humbug, insurance salesmen, pah"

So you can see I had great vision and foresight......

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

Laurence Webb — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 23:22:49 GMT

When seeing practice I went down Ellington colliery in Northumberland for the annual pit pony health check. Several hundred feet down and a few miles out under the North Sea

Nowadays pit ponies sound like something from Victorian times, but they were still in use in the (ailing) collieries in the 80s. Well loved by their human workmates and, for a job in extreme circumstances, in better condition than many pets at that time.

Re: You know you're getting to be an old(er) vet when....

tess — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:31:23 GMT

£11k starting salary in 1992. First job was 1:3 on call, long, long hours and minimal back up. Remember phoning for help with my first bitch caesar to be told "just get on with it". I stuck it for 6 months and then thankfully moved on to something better.

We sold a liquid called "tonic" which was mixed at the surgery. It seemed to contain lots of vitamin B, judging by the smell...