guinea pig abs

Re: guinea pig abs

ceri stewart — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:02:25 GMT

In my role as a receptionist at an OOH vet I had to advise a lady whose young guinea pig had D++ and lethargy 24 hours after being given betamox LA for an abscess. She'd been on the internet and seen that this may not have been the best idea, so my vet and I had to compose very careful advice to give her. She had no money to bring the piggy to us, so I have no idea whether it made it to Monday.

Re: guinea pig abs

Dagmar Steele — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 09:56:26 GMT

Rabbits tolerate Penicillin/Ampicillin quite well. Guinea pigs, Chinchillas, Degus don't. Most of them drop dead a few days after administration. (I have a vet close by who uses it on guinea pigs, hence I know :-( ) Other rodents like rats and hamsters cope well with Ampicillin.

Corticosteroids cause liver problems in rabbits and rodents, even if applied locally. Only use them if you really cannot avoid it.

Re: guinea pig abs

Stephen Courtney — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 23:10:33 GMT

You can give rabbits a weekly injection of penicillin if need be - we use duphapen - but the odd one will drop off the needle and die. You need to be aware of that and factor that discussion into your informed consent - but I've never had it happen to me. i don't, however, use penicillin freely in rabbits , and NEVER in rodents.

Also be very very careful with corticosteroids.

Re: guinea pig abs

mariette asselbergs — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 21:31:03 GMT

Yes I was always taught that and it seemed to make sense. But when we had an outbreak of abscesses in the spleens of rabbits in rabbit projects in Mozambique, we injected all rabbits for 3 days with pen strep and it stopped it without causing any GI problems. I think I picked that up from an old (East) german book on rabbits and hares, but I am now mainly reporting from memory. I just did remember that the penicillin did not cause problems for us there. Mind you, the rabbits there lived for 90% on grass, hay and other greens, and wheat and rice bran, so loads of fibre always.

Mariette

Re: guinea pig abs

Sammy82 — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 14:51:56 GMT

I've certainly been told at vetschool in Germany as well as Uk publications/practice to never ever use beta-lactame ABs in a rodent as it would damage their intestinal flora. Maybe it's just one of the urban myths that are floating about in practice and everyone believes in it so not many people dare to break this rule.

Re: guinea pig abs

Glenn Hodgson — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 20:21:42 GMT

Check for tmps sens. Also, if have not, check sediment for calcium oxalate, fair chance the cause, then address husbandry.

Penicillin sc seems safe enough too. I have used betamox plenty in the past, but it seems to be frowned upon last time I looked into.

I had two from one hutch get it at once this week. Was due to a feast of parsley, loads of oxalate apparently.

Re: guinea pig abs

Glenn Hodgson — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 20:21:39 GMT

Check for tmps sens. Also, if have not, check sediment for calcium oxalate, fair chance the cause, then address husbandry.

Penicillin sc seems safe enough too. I have used betamox plenty in the past, but it seems to be frowned upon last time I looked into.

I had two from one hutch get it at once this week. Was due to a feast of parsley, loads of oxalate apparently.

Re: guinea pig abs

Stephen Courtney — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:31:37 GMT

I usually use septrin paediatric suspension as a first choice in small furries