Maggot infestation on a DLH

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

mariette asselbergs — Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:43:51 GMT

Rearguard: the problem with that one is it is permethrin, so a no for cats.

And I have to defend my client against the accusation of neglect. They had been in 2 days before for diarrhoea (detected that day). And they came in with mainly eggs (which are laid in minutes), and the first wriggly ones, and in a well combed fluffy persian they are really difficult to see and find properly. I was impressed that they had found them, and in time.

They haven't been back, so i presume they have been able to keep the cat clean and dry and fly egg free even without the help of insecticides.

But thanks all, again, for interesting and helpful suggestions.

Mariette

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Charlotte Marshall — Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:19:52 GMT

I picked up a sample of F10 at congress a couple of years ago. They told me it would kill the maggots so the next maggotty rabbit we had I sprayed it with F10 with no apparent effect. I've not tried again. maybe I have not given it enough of a chance!

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Kathryn Burton — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:58:40 GMT

Believe it or not, when seeing practice (a while back!) I saw a vet spray a maggoty cat with F10... And not realise that was maybe a bad thing to do until I became an annoying student and piped up... Cat lived to see another day though!

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Robin Grimmer — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:36:58 GMT

Well said Martin

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

bob lehner — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:47:00 GMT

P.S. Should have noted - don't use Cypermethrin in cats.....!!!

''WARNING: cypermethrin is toxic to cats! Cats do not tolerate therapeutic doses for dogs. This is associated with glucuronidase deficiency in cats, the enzyme responsible for breaking down cypermethrin and other synthetic pyrethroids in the organism in a process called glucuronidation. As a consequence, cypermethrin remains much longer in the cat's organism than in dogs or other mammals.'

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

bob lehner — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:38:11 GMT

F10 Germicidal Wound Spray with Insecticide

Germicidal Wound Spray with Insecticide is a ready to use topical, spot-on application spray active against bacteria and fungi for wound treatment with the capabilities of repelling flies and preventing or eliminating infestations due to fly strike.

Combination the excellent properties of the F10 Germicidal Barrier Ointment or F10 Antiseptic Solution with the added insecticidal activity of

Cypermethrin (0.25%) and Piperonyl Butoxide (1.25%)

Fly strike in rabbits and other small pets: One initial 5-second application of the F10 Wound Spray to the infested area will usually result in complete elimination of the maggots. To preventre-infection treat with further daily applications of the Wound Spray or with F10 Germicidal Barrier Ointment with Insecticide.
Where the risk of fly-strike is high, following diarrhoea or urinary incontinence for example, use the F10 Germicidal Wound Spray with Insecticide as a preventative control measure.

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Braden Collins — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:06:29 GMT

Maybe some meloxicam if it's not grooming properly.

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Kathryn Burton — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:33:41 GMT

Does anyone use anything on rabbits that already have flystrike? Some of our vets inject ivomec or use xeno/xenex spot on, not sure if any real evidence for this though? Uptake of reargaurd/general rabbit care always seems disappointingly low so sadly see lots of these cases...

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Bob Russell — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:41:25 GMT

[quote user="Utlendigur"]

Anyone remember Negasunt? (showing my age)

That's the only thing I've ever seen work really well

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Still have a container of it. So old it does not have an expiry date. I have been known to put a light sprinkle on maggotty rabbits after thorough clipping, cleaning and drying the area. it was well hidden during our VMD inspection. I have assumed that like Droplix it might have become more potent with time!

Names from the past!

Ivomec works well (I have little faith in Advocate) but why would Stronghold be inferior, I wonder?

Make sure the area is dried so get the hairdryer out. Maggots don't like dry skin!

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Martin Atkinson — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:58:23 GMT

[quote user="mariette asselbergs"]

What can be used to prevent/after treat maggots on a long haired cat?

[/quote]Client education and basic care?! This is surely a case of neglect, its bad enough in a rabbit that's been left to wallow in its own shit in the hutch in the garden but there should really be no excuse in a cat unless its been in an RTA and laid up injured with open wounds. This client would get a piece of my mind.

But to answer the OP a bit more unemotionally, I don't see you need to do anything other than just clean it up an treat any wounds as you have done. As the above intimates - there should be no need for ongoing preventative treatment if the cat is looked after properly.

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Dagmar Steele — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:47:44 GMT

[quote user="Wren"]

[quote user="Dagmar Steele"]

Ah, just saw the original post was for prevention of new infection. I've only used it when there were maggots present on the animal. I don't think it works longer than 24hrs. To prevent new infections it's clean and dry and keep clean I'm afraid.

Dagmar

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Can you still get Rearguard, and would that be useful in cats?

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Apparently you can in the UK, we don't have it here in Germany (or else I haven't heard of it), hence I don't have a clue if it helps...

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Wren — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:35:19 GMT

[quote user="Dagmar Steele"]

Dagmar

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Can you still get Rearguard, and would that be useful in cats?

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Wren — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:32:43 GMT

[quote user="Charlotte Marshall"]

We eeked out our last tub of negasunt for ages I seem to remember. we definately missed it when it was gone.

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Ditto! I saved it for ages past its expiry date (same with my last tube of Dermobion). I distinctly remember using the last of the tub. It was on a tup belonging to a hobby farmer in one of the damp valleys near the North York Moors. He'd been on holiday and come back to find his tup depressed. I distinctly remember the noise of the maggots wriggling thourgh its drenched fleece which I could hear from 10yds away as I walked down the field to it. I clipped it from head to toe, dried it out and drenched it in Negasunt powder. I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever seen so many maggots on one animal. It survived, but always had a slightly depressed air to it from that day on.

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Dagmar Steele — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:27:41 GMT

[quote user="Dagmar Steele"]

[quote user="Marie Kubiak"]

Has anyone ever used capstar? I have heard anecdotes that the maggots die off as quickly as the fleas do.

Marie

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Yes, I do. It works well, but I still try to remove as many manually as I can.

Dagmar

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Dagmar

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Dagmar Steele — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:24:19 GMT

[quote user="Marie Kubiak"]

Has anyone ever used capstar? I have heard anecdotes that the maggots die off as quickly as the fleas do.

Marie

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Yes, I do. It works well, but I still try to remove as many manually as I can.

Dagmar

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Marie Kubiak — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:09:46 GMT

Has anyone ever used capstar? I have heard anecdotes that the maggots die off as quickly as the fleas do.

Marie

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Charlotte Marshall — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:51:11 GMT

That was good stuff. The only thing that seemed to kill actual maggots

-they seem not to even drown in pure surgical spirit.

We eeked out our last tub of negasunt for ages I seem to remember. we definately missed it when it was gone.

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Utlendigur — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:41:58 GMT

Anyone remember Negasunt? (showing my age)

That's the only thing I've ever seen work really well

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Anthony Dennison — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:24:00 GMT

[quote user="mariette asselbergs"]

I could not find any claim that ivermectin would work on maggots, for all its wonderful effectiveness on both worms and ticks and mites and lice.

Mariette

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Ivermectin is used alot in India with maggot infested wounds to good effect, to the point where most animals with open wounds will get a shot of it.

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Charlotte Marshall — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:48:14 GMT

I was told ivermectin was supposed to stop maggot development. However that was just from other vets in practice so I don't know where the original info came from.

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

mariette asselbergs — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:19:23 GMT

Thanks all of you for quick response!

Luckily it wasn't as bad as could have been Wynne, the owners were just in time.

We clipped and washed, there was only some raw skin on the thighs.

I could not find any claim that ivermectin would work on maggots, for all its wonderful effectiveness on both worms and ticks and mites and lice.

And neither does frontline.

I put my bets on Advocate, but maybe wrong.

At least the owner can see it well now, and the cat, for all of its 18 years, can reach it to clean it properly.

And its diarrhoea had stopped, which will help.

I don't suppose vapona collars still exist?

Mariette

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Miriam Lodewyks — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:12:21 GMT

Frontline spray? And clip the coat short...

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:51:04 GMT

Clip to make sue you've exposed as many as possible (and that there's no ares where they're undermining the skin.Wash as many off as you possibly can. Treat 2y infection and shock antibiotics/painkillers/drip- then ivermectin. If around bottom stick endoscope up - or auroscope if you haven't endoscope.Good luck as they can be horrors to treat.

Wynne

Re: Maggot infestation on a DLH

Anthony Dennison — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:12:01 GMT

Ivermectin injection?