Seraquin causing pancreatitis?

Re: Seraquin causing pancreatitis?

Andrew Kent — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:05:02 GMT

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Dare I mention trying Chappie?

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Yep, that would be another good option if the owner would consider it.

Re: Seraquin causing pancreatitis?

Thomas Johnson — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:58:29 GMT

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Otherwise I would say that diet is probably the most likely reason for your dog to have recurrent episodes. If the owner is reluctant to go to another commercial food would she consider a home cooked low fat diet? If so you could get one formulated by a nutritionist? Or would she consider mixing a lower fat diet with the W/D to try to reduce the overall fibre content? Might be a reasonable middle ground?

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Dare I mention trying Chappie?

Re: Seraquin causing pancreatitis?

Andrew Kent — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:35:11 GMT

Hi Adrienne,

Have a bit longer now so can expand a bit more.

I am not aware of any association between seraquin and pancreatitis, there is some discussion of whether glucosamine is problematic in diabetics so if the dog becomes diabetic in the future it may be another matter, but from the pancreatitis point of view should be fine.

Cockers are interesting because, through Penny's work as robloxley says, we suspect that some of these dogs have an immune-mediated aetiology to their disease, much like some people. And that in some dogs it is part of a wider multi-systemic immune mediated disease (many that we see have concurrent glomerulonephritis/KCS/Anal saculitis). There is still a lot of work here going on to try to find out a bit more about these dogs but it is an interesting disease.

It means that in some cases we have tried treating them with steroids, and we have seen some good results. However we have reserved steroids for dogs that fail more conventional treatment so far.

Does your dog have any evidence of other immune-mediated disease - dry eye, proteinuria?

Dog's who are not compatible with low fat diets are, i think, some of the hardest to control. We have had similar problems with dogs with diet responsive GI diseases as well as nobody really makes ultra low fat novel protein diets!

Good luck!

Andy

Re: Seraquin causing pancreatitis?

Adrienne McPartland — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:20:10 GMT

I have tried on numerous occasions to get her switched onto hills i/d low fat but owner point blank refuses as she says dog has profuse watery diarrhoea when fed anything other than w/d.

Re: Seraquin causing pancreatitis?

Andrew Kent — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:07:39 GMT

W-D as a diet is not good for pancreatitis. High fibre diets increase post prandial pain and delay emptying, so even so the calorie restriction seems attractive you should get this dog over to a genuine low far diet (RCW GI low fat being the lowest.) Andy

Re: Seraquin causing pancreatitis?

Rob Loxley — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:11:46 GMT

I've not heard of any strong link, I'd suspect the bigger risk factor for this dog is being an older Cocker Spaniel

It's worth looking up some of Penny Watson's work on pancreatitis in English Cockers