How do people get past this? Do you get past it :(?

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Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:47:22 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

Bilateral abdo cryptorchid yesterday (Irish Wolfhound, 70+KG). I checked very carefully what I was removing!

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Hope it wasn't the kidneys then!

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Michael Woodhouse — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:00:37 GMT

Bilateral abdo cryptorchid yesterday (Irish Wolfhound, 70+KG). I checked very carefully what I was removing!

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:42:37 GMT

True, but having just read the VR, I couldn't resist it!!!!!!!!!!

Wynne

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Gillian Mostyn — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:09:36 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"] Gillian. You don't know An Ons age. Did you read last weeks' VR? An interview with Dennis Oliver who has just retired after 70 ( yes I did write 70 ) years on the active register. An On may be only a year behind him!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

No, true. But I'd assume most people are hoping for a few years of retirement.... no? Even if you are 89, I'm sure you're hoping you will outlive this dog....

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:01:24 GMT

An On . I've yet to meet a corgi ( and I've met a fair number ) who didn't organise, and generally run it's "owners" (ha ha ha ) ragged. After all, if you were bred to boss around a drove of several hundred Welsh Black (wild as hawks ) cattle,then it must be incredibly frustrating to only have a few puny humans to dominate.

Wynne

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:55:18 GMT

Gillian. You don't know An Ons age. Did you read last weeks' VR? An interview with Dennis Oliver who has just retired after 70 ( yes I did write 70 ) years on the active register. An On may be only a year behind him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wynne

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:50:54 GMT

An On.I second Gillian. Well done!

Just give it an extended course of antibiotics at the top concentration permissable and keep it on them until the lab say it's cured. A very wise (and elderly when I was a new grad ) said to me (we were discussing urinary infections in animals) " Just remember animals are tilted through 90 degrees at the hips, and water doesn't run uphill very well - so you have a good old bacterial soup fermenting away in there."

Wynne

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Gillian Mostyn — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:44:19 GMT

[quote user="An On MRCVS"] This dog is set to be the bain of my life, I think![/quote]

nah.... even you can't make it live that long!!

All in all,the dog sounds to be doing really well!

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An On MRCVS — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:30:05 GMT

Hi Kate, thanks for asking!

Well, dog is home, but he is still dribbling a bit. Not all the time, which is a bit confusing- he can be really great for a day or so, then dribble lots the next day, but not consistently incontinent, if you see what I mean. We tried him on propalin, but he was being a little bugger about taking it, so I've tried him on enurace, which seems to be working better, and no side effects to date. Owner is using an incontinence belt with him too, and I'm just not sure how much could be behavioural to some extent with this little guy....her sister let slip that he always used to piddle in the house, and he seemed to refuse to pee at all (and no dribbling!) when he was with me, although laterally he wouldn't eat for me at all (of course I got all worried about his kidneys!) but then went home and has been eating like a horse! He is s strange dog!

Last C+S showed <significant amounts bateria, so I'm hoping time will help iron things out- or not. This dog is set to be the bain of my life, I think!

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Kate Richardson — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 22:18:27 GMT

How are you getting on?

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George Cooper — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:24:05 GMT

And all this...... .........".........."... ........for a corgi? (I'll get my coat!)

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Anthony Todd — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 11:27:18 GMT

[quote user="Heather J"] blissfully uneventful[/quote]

I suppose it might be an idea to pass a urinary catheter in these retained testicles just to make sure the retained testicle isn't the prostate in future.

I thought, with others, it'd be an impossible mistake to make but.....

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Badger er — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 10:52:08 GMT

WOOP WOOP!!!!

So so happy for you and for the dog!! I hope the weekend has been blissfully uneventful for all concerned.

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Helen Wallace — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:24:53 GMT

So pleased for you and the little guy Anon. I'm seriously impressed with your surgical skill repairing that urethra. I do know of another case where this happened (many years ago) and it ended badly I'm so happy yours didn't

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Mark Hedberg — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:38:33 GMT

[quote user="An On MRCVS"]

Hi Wynne, I just used PDS- thought monofilament might be better in the area

He is doing ok, but think he is taking me for a bit of a ride now! Tried to give him a tablet this morning and he wouldn't have it and nipped my finger, but was ok for my nurse! Then later another nurse took him out and he did a big pee, but when I take him out he just looks at me mournfully! Ah well, hopefully he will go home on Friday and settle down a bit! I have a weekend off this weekend and I am heartily looking forward to it (but will no doubt spend half of it texting his owner and worrying he is ok!)

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After a case like this, isn't it JUST like the patient to 'take the piss'?

(Sorry, I couldn't resist!)

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CatherineThomas — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:08:33 GMT

Well done! I'm not sure I would have been able to rectify the situation like you did. I did my first urethrotomy on a dog and that was tricky enough. On the subject of suture material I phoned our local referral centre for advise before doing the urethrotomy and the surgeon told me to use vicryl 6/0. I was surprised that he didn't say a monofilament but he said the size was more important and most practices are more likely to have the smaller sizes of vicryl than a monofilament, and he felt vicryl was suitable.

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An On MRCVS — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:48:33 GMT

Hi Wynne, I just used PDS- thought monofilament might be better in the area

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Virginia Campbell — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:11:36 GMT

[quote user="Malcolm Ness"]Success is the ability to make Plan B work.[/quote]

Love it! Well done Anon, I will raise a glass tonight to the continued health of your patient and your surgery skills in putting plan B into action. Good save!

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Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:25:36 GMT

An On Which suture material did you use? ( not that I'm planning routine prostatectomies any time soon!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Wynne

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Malcolm Ness — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:25:44 GMT

Success is the ability to make Plan B work.

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bob lehner — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:00:35 GMT

Yes a great outcome - very well-handled (apart from the obvious initial little prob - but as a result of your sharing this, we've all learned something useful I'm sure -'There but for the grace of God '...etc etc).

Just hope the owners are (at least a bit) appreciative of all your hard work and concern.

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Suzanne Kelly — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:10:29 GMT

Woohoo! yay for pee

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Garfy gecko — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:19:32 GMT

Great news - another well done and big smile. We've all been there, any of us who have done this job for any length of time and it can feel like hell on earth ! Well done for surgical success and keeping sane! :) :)

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Michael Woodhouse — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:19:18 GMT

Anon - also really pleased for you

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mariette asselbergs — Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:55:15 GMT

Thanks for sharing this whole episode. I have learnt a lot from it in many different respects. Ethics, attitude, looking for help and receiving it. I think the whole discussion could serve as a discussion and learning example for vet students in the various vet schools. I hope somebody will pick it up for that purpose. How to deal with surgical disasters. Very relieved for you, celebrate!

Mariette