For Sale: 50 VET car registration £4500 ono

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Martin Atkinson — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:31:09 GMT

[quote user="Gillian Mostyn"]You have insulted people (I wonder if your opinions would have been so forthright if the OP had been called Annabel Smith) and then say that. You're priceless! [/quote]Well I have to admit that there was possibly a bit more venom in my response given the OP but don't know this Annabel Smith so can't tell you however if it was Gillian Mostyn - who knows!

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Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:24:56 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]It is a bit of a Marmite topic: clearly those who have personalised plates think they're OK whereas those of us who have made a decision not to are likely to think the opposite. [/quote]

Nope - would love a personalised plate (although it would be something other than VET) - I just begrudge the cost. If I won the lottery........

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]Good to finish on an amicable note.[/quote]

You have insulted people (I wonder if your opinions would have been so forthright if the OP had been called Annabel Smith) and then say that. You're priceless!

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Martin Atkinson — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:10:45 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]

Sports car? Mid-life crisis?

We have a Ferrari/Maserati garage locally. Most of the drivers fit the category above. Is there an element of jealousy on my part? Probably!

Yes I would have a lot of respect for anyone driving a sports car with KN0B or similar - again a bit of fun!

[/quote] I've found a number of those who used to pose round in their sports cars at the weekend have now bought an expensive road race bike, donned SKY gear and become MAMILs. I have grudgingly more respect for them because at least they are getting off their arses and doing some exercise.

[quote user="Bob Russell"]We are never going to agree on number plates! [/quote] It is a bit of a Marmite topic: clearly those who have personalised plates think they're OK whereas those of us who have made a decision not to are likely to think the opposite.

Good to finish on an amicable note.

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Bob Russell — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:17:59 GMT

Sports car? Mid-life crisis?

We have a Ferrari/Maserati garage locally. Most of the drivers fit the category above. Is there an element of jealousy on my part? Probably!

Yes I would have a lot of respect for anyone driving a sports car with KN0B or similar - again a bit of fun!

We are never going to agree on number plates!

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Martin Atkinson — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:19:27 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]What a Saint you are! A model I suspect most of us cannot even aspire to![/quote] Given the number of 5 stars I've received clearly others agree with you Bob!

[quote user="Bob Russell"]A 50 year old in an open sports car may deserve the plate KN0B [/quote] So why is that in your view not acceptable but its OK to drive round with your initials or VET on the plate? - that is just hypocrisy. The 50+ year old, fat, bald guy in an open top sports car may just enjoy driving his car! If I were he,(which I add I will never be) I would relish the plate KNOB because it shows a huge amount of sense of humour, self-deprecation and self-confidence/esteem. Just my opinion at which point I will sign off from this thread.

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Bob Russell — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:04:28 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

[quote user="josnow2"] I also have a number plate I would like to sell (E1 VET) - I was bought the number plate as a gift from very proud parents when I qualified from Edinburgh, and it adorned my car for several years, not at all because of a lack of self esteem as Martin suggested, but because I was in fact very proud that I had qualified and was working as a vet,[/quote] Just before I sign off from playing Devils Advocate and try and close the lid on Pandora's Box, I would just like to say that I probably would also have adorned my clapped out Hillman Imp with a personalised number plate when I first qualified if I could have afforded it but my parents were not in any position to afford it either. However as I have grown up and reflect that success is not only measured by material possessions, I would observe Jos that true pride in your achievements is something that you keep to yourself and enjoy privately with a glow of self satisfaction, maybe with a drop of malt in hand. Advertising it to the world is boasting and showing off which is something I no longer feel I need to do.

[/quote]

What a Saint you are! A model I suspect most of us cannot even aspire to!

I like odd number plates, they are fun and actually pretty common nowadays. Be proud of your achievements and show off a little if you wish (with a degree of discretion). Excessive boasting will impress nobody and will make you look a prat.

A 50 year old in an open sports car may deserve the plate KN0B but a workhorse car with a personalised number should really be acceptable IMO!

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Martin Atkinson — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:57:21 GMT

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josnow2 — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:14:05 GMT

At the risk of backlash and character assissination from a certain Martin Atkinson, I also have a number plate I would like to sell (E1 VET) - I was bought the number plate as a gift from very proud parents when I qualified from Edinburgh, and it adorned my car for several years, not at all because of a lack of self esteem as Martin suggested, but because I was in fact very proud that I had qualified and was working as a vet, it also helped me to quickly integrate into the farming community of my first job in mixed practice as people recognised me and the car as I was driving around doing visits. I am sorry to jump on the OP's post, but I thought it might help to get the thread back on track to what was originally an innocent advert from someone with something to sell.

....and you never know maybe someone would like two?

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Thomas Johnson — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:50:44 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]

non of us are arbiters of how other people should behave unless they are grossly incompetent and their behaviour is adversely affecting others or is criminal. But if you believe someone is acting in a way you do not personally approve of you should have the courage to tell them and take the consequences.

[/quote]

Someone may be acting in a way you disapprove of, but if it does no harm to others, or to themselves (though that may be very difficult to judge sometimes), what business is it of yours to tell them. I would put personal number plates in this category, I can't imagine ever having one myself, and I may sometimes think 'what a waste of money' when I see one on someone's car, but as long as they're putting bread on the table, what business is it of mine how they spend their disposable income?

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Arlo Guthrie — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:01:51 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]To just privately look down your nose at them or worse discuss it amongst others without their knowledge is unfair if not plain cowardly.[/quote]

I disagree. I'd much rather anyone who thinks I'm a plonker keeps that to themselves!

I'd also much prefer they discuss what a plonker I am with others than with me, provided I am unaware (if I find out, it is of course hurtful).

I think restraining myself from expressing a negative opinion about someone to their face is not about lack of courage, just good manners.

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Martin Atkinson — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:34:26 GMT

[quote user="Arlo Guthrie"]I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. For two fundamental reasons. First, what makes you or me the arbiter of what others need to respond to, defend or change about themselves? I'm not that self-confident! I tend not to go around telling people they are plonkers. If I think it, I keep it amongst close friends.[/quote] To start you're right Arlo, non of us are arbiters of how other people should behave unless they are grossly incompetent and their behaviour is adversely affecting others or is criminal. But if you believe someone is acting in a way you do not personally approve of you should have the courage to tell them and take the consequences. Who knows they may even convince you that they are right and change your ways. To just privately look down your nose at them or worse discuss it amongst others without their knowledge is unfair if not plain cowardly.

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Arlo Guthrie — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:18:26 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"][quote user="Arlo Guthrie"]But then again, I would argue that classier still is not (in public anyway), looking down your nose at people who are not. [/quote]Not sure if that's a dig [/quote]

No, not a dig. A sincerely held belief.

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"] surely it is worse to look down your nose at someone privately, you should have the courage to say it and let them respond, defend or change themselves. There are many things about people which are unfortunate and cannot be changed and no-one should look down at them but if someone is being a plonker they should be told whether they want to change or not then is their choice.[/quote]

I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. For two fundamental reasons. First, what makes you or me the arbiter of what others need to respond to, defend or change about themselves? I'm not that self-confident!

Secondly, I've always believed that good manners or 'class' are about whether you treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. Being a 'gentleman' is more about being a gentle man than the cut of your suit.

So for that reason, I tend not to go around telling people they are plonkers. If I think it, I keep it amongst close friends.

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Arlo Guthrie — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:07:00 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"] Aaaahhhhhhh............

I think you have self-confidence and self-esteem the wrong way round.[/quote]

I think not. They are synonymous.

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Mark Hedberg — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:48:39 GMT

[quote user="Helen Wallace"]

Not sure about personalised plates but when I bought my new car (yes, money down the drain, I know ) a few years back I got to chose the plate number off a list. I decided not to go with the one that ended in PTS... even if clients never made the connection don't think I could have lived it down with my colleagues.

[/quote]

Are you kidding?! That's hilarious!!!

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Helen Wallace — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:29:38 GMT

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Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:15:21 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"] That's where the difference in self-esteem and self-confidence comes into play. A lot of people who are trying to make an impression are self-confident but the fact that they have to prove themselves to others shows they lack in self-esteem. Could be heading for pedants corner here again.[/quote]

Aaaahhhhhhh............

I think you have self-confidence and self-esteem the wrong way round.

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Martin Atkinson — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:54:09 GMT

[quote user="Arlo Guthrie"]

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]Those who display their peacock's feathers and give ostentatious displays of their wealth/prestige are often self confident and have a high opinion of themselves[/quote]

Interesting - my experience is the exact opposite.

I've always found that those who make the most effort to make an impression are the people who are least confident.

[/quote] That's where the difference in self-esteem and self-confidence comes into play. A lot of people who are trying to make an impression are self-confident but the fact that they have to prove themselves to others shows they lack in self-esteem. Could be heading for pedants corner here again.

[quote user="Arlo Guthrie"]But then again, I would argue that classier still is not (in public anyway), looking down your nose at people who are not. [/quote]Not sure if that's a dig but surely it is worse to look down your nose at someone privately, you should have the courage to say it and let them respond, defend or change themselves. There are many things about people which are unfortunate and cannot be changed and no-one should look down at them but if someone is being a plonker they should be told whether they want to change or not then is their choice.

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Arlo Guthrie — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:21:12 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]Those who display their peacock's feathers and give ostentatious displays of their wealth/prestige are often self confident and have a high opinion of themselves[/quote]

Interesting - my experience is the exact opposite.

I've always found that those who make the most effort to make an impression are the people who are least confident.

I think I rather tend to agree with your observation that true class comes from being anonymously comfortable in your own boots.

But then again, I would argue that classier still is not (in public anyway), looking down your nose at people who are not.

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Bob Russell — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:14:51 GMT

The number plate on my car is not primarily for business, it was not bought as an investment and is on a recent car. I don't care that much how old my car is as long as it is comfortable and reliable and can get me up the track in the winter. The previous car died screaming in protest!

I change cars only when forced to as I am not particularly car proud and cannot see the point in trading in a perfectly functional vehicle. The number plate is a bit of fun and has gone up in value (apparently!) reasonably well.

I have to admit I would not spend a lot of money on an expensive personalised number plate but like the one I have! I am not rich and success is in the eye of the beholder and appearances are not something I lose sleep over.

A lottery win would be rather nice though!

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Martin Atkinson — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:34:40 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"] Not sure I see the link between a number plate and self-esteem. My number plate is a bit of fun,[/quote] Well those with a personalised plate wouldn't say this wouldn't they as they're in denial!

You can't say its just a bit of fun to be displaying something which is clearly intended to be seen by others and make a statement about yourself, it is however you look at it a form of self-aggrandisement. Those who display their peacock's feathers and give ostentatious displays of their wealth/prestige are often self confident and have a high opinion of themselves but you can be wealthy and successful without trying to tell the whole world, I'll confess there was a time when I considered having a personalised plate, wore designer clothes and displayed other signs of wealth to show people I was rich and successful, but now I've grown up, am at ease with myself and my position in the greater scheme of things and I realise that it shows true class to be anonymous. I have expensive possessions but they are for my pleasure only, I don't have to advertise to the world. Have an expensive car by all means if it gives you pleasure but don't anyone tell me that a personalised plate on it is primarily for business or investment or that putting one on an old car is anything other than being ashamed not to be driving around in a new one.

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Roger Meacock — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:53:21 GMT

[quote user="John Flynn"]alternatively, add a dimension of mystery and intrigue surrounding it - perhaps some unidentified blood (varnish might do) splattered over one plate without explanation:[/quote]

Lol, I'm not sure a bit of "blood" on one of the plates would necessarily be a good idea - someone might think I've been drumming up business!!

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John Flynn — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:50:34 GMT

[quote user="Roger Meacock"]To be perfectly honest John, I'm happy for people to put the plate on a moped or even as modern art in their living room - what a great idea - where do I get the number for Tracey Emin or maybe the Tate Modern?!! [/quote]

Hehe!

i'm not the arty-type, but I'm sure what you need is a really good story to go with it - that seems to work for art - perhaps a story of a daring or exciting vet-adventure where, but for the numberplate, all would have been lost?

alternatively, add a dimension of mystery and intrigue surrounding it - perhaps some unidentified blood (varnish might do) splattered over one plate without explanation: if you play your cards right, you won't need the number for the Tate - they'll call you!

Good luck with the sale

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Roger Meacock — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:40:03 GMT

[quote user="John Flynn"]Not owning a car probably puts me in the wrong target market I guess.[/quote]

To be perfectly honest John, I'm happy for people to put the plate on a moped or even as modern art in their living room - what a great idea - where do I get the number for Tracey Emin or maybe the Tate Modern?!!

Best wishes

Roger

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John Flynn — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:34:38 GMT

[quote user="Roger Meacock"]although the rest still haven't got the bit that you can sell the plate on and the advertising doesn't then cost you £4500 - it may go down slightly or it may even go up in which case you've been paid to advertise![/quote]

Very true. I guess it's worth what someone will pay for it, and you only need one buyer.

Not owning a car probably puts me in the wrong target market I guess.

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Bob Russell — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:06:58 GMT

Not sure I see the link between a number plate and self-esteem. My number plate is a bit of fun, nobody knows if my car is old or new (not that people seem to be that bothered!). It has been a fair investment financially but it was quite cheap to buy in the first place!

Sounds like some anti-VET plate people have a bit of a problem!