Ashes

Re: Ashes

Malcolm Ness — Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:23:46 GMT

[quote user="Mark Holmes"]Commercial reasons. There's a real risk that they would have them out again tomorrow[/quote]

You cynic!!

I think the real reason is that although England will have to work really hard to lose this game (they are already trying - 3 wickets down) the most likely way that Aus might win is by putting on a decent follow-on score then bowling against England at the end of the match when the pitch is driest and falling apart. Similarly, Aus might contrive a draw in those circumstances. Doing as they are, England should be able to add a big lead tomorrow then they have all the cards including one of the best spin bowlers making the most of the failing pitch. England are minimising the chances of losing either the match or control, while at the same time increasing the chances of winning AND making the Australians feel bad!!

Exciting though the tumbling wickets stuff is, I would prefer a closer contest - at the moment, England aren't really winning, they are just not losing as badly as Australia. That said, a 5-0 series win would be good. I am off to Australia later in the year and it would be nice to have something to talk about between lectures. (apart from the tennis, the rugby, the cycling and the olympics)

Re: Ashes

Mark Holmes — Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:31:37 GMT

[quote user="Gerbil"]

Why oh why didnt they make them bat again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/quote] Commercial reasons. There's a real risk that they would have them out again tomorrow. Do you think Lords would be happy with them winning with 2 days in hand. 2 days of lost ticket sales

Re: Ashes

Gerbil — Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:35:11 GMT

Why oh why didnt they make them bat again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Ashes

Malcolm Ness — Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:27:46 GMT

[quote user="Anthony Todd"]England 32 for 3.....[/quote]

What a difference a day makes!!

Re: Ashes

Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:15:09 GMT

I agree Bob

Wynne

Re: Ashes

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:59:28 GMT

Me three!!

Then I forgot closed it looked at some updates and was surprised all over again!?!

Re: Ashes

bob lehner — Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:15:48 GMT

[quote user="Jo Jones"]

Did anyone else see the title of this thread and think it was a query about cremations....?!

Just me then.

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No - me too (and would have been rather more interesting). But then the trophy does look a bit like someone had their favourite budgie pts and asked for a private crem......

Re: Ashes

Anthony Todd — Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:03:17 GMT

England 32 for 3.....

Re: Ashes

Gerry Henry — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:02:09 GMT

Sod the Ashes, did anyone see the Tri Series final last week, India vs Sri Lanka, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bt8X89_c5o Dhoni hits a six last ball to win the series, brilliant.

Re: Ashes

Christopher Saul — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 21:47:18 GMT

exactly Macolm, my point entirely

Re: Ashes

Malcolm Ness — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 21:43:48 GMT

[quote user="Christopher Saul"]The team is England and Wales, and should be recognised as such IMHO. I'd love to see Scotland and Ireland play together with us in a british team like the lions[/quote]

For a while the "England" team that has frequently featured Welsh players had a Scottish captain in Mike Denness.

Re: Ashes

peewit — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 21:43:20 GMT

Am I the only person who opened this thread NOT expecting a debate about cricket....... Was expecting a debate about cremation ;-)

Re: Ashes

Christopher Saul — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 21:32:22 GMT

[quote user="Virginia Campbell"]Well done England, from a Northern Irishwoman[/quote]

The sentiment is very much appreciated Virginia! Sport can be such a uniting force, it can really bring people together. Example the Lions rugby union team where the English, Welsh, Scots and Irish (both NI and republic) play together with good spirits.

(either that or all brits, of whatever nationality, can't bear to see the ausies win and will put rivalry aside in the face of the common foe)

PS in what part of NI do you live? My partner is from Bangor...

Re: Ashes

Christopher Saul — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 21:24:39 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

Christopher Even I (patriotic Welshwoman as I am) have to admit that our contribution to cricket is usually minor. Now rugby is another matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wynne

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Not important. The fact is you contribute, however little it may be (though Simon Jones really did help win the Ashes of 2005)

As a patriotic Brit ( not Englishman, I am British) I find it very disappointing that we do not reward loyalty; and that is one of the reasons that our once proud union is breaking up. The team is England and Wales, and should be recognised as such IMHO. I'd love to see Scotland and Ireland play together with us in a british team like the lions

Re: Ashes

Hannah Wynne Richards — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:30:56 GMT

Christopher Even I (patriotic Welshwoman as I am) have to admit that our contribution to cricket is usually minor. Now rugby is another matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wynne

Re: Ashes

Nicola Cole — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:34:01 GMT

You're not alone-I did as well!

Re: Ashes

Jo Cobbett — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:51:31 GMT

Did anyone else see the title of this thread and think it was a query about cremations....?!

Just me then.

Re: Ashes

Braden Collins — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:51:23 GMT

I thought it was England, Wales and South Africa? Good strt to the series in terms of excitement, just the wrong result. Where does the English team stay when they tour South Africa? With their mum and dad.

Re: Ashes

Mark Hedberg — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:41:04 GMT

[quote user="james herriot lied"]

[quote user="Virginia Campbell"]

Always thought it a pity that Simon Jones got Test-career knackering injuries;

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How does a cricketer get career-ending injuries? Gout from too many mid-Test lunches? Or falling out of bed between innings? From what I can see, it's not even an imperative to be able to run between the wickets.

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They take lessons watching Premier League football.

Re: Ashes

Christopher Saul — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:56:45 GMT

[quote user="Virginia Campbell"] Always thought it a pity that Simon Jones got Test-career knackering injuries; he was brilliant to watch in the 2005 Ashes which is when I started watching cricket.[/quote]

Couldn't agree with you more Virginia. He was a brilliant reverse-swinger of the ball, could hardly believe my eyes sometimes. Also as he was better with the old ball but was still very fast, it meant that we could keep up a strong pace attack all the time not just with the new ball.

I'd actually prefer it if the full team name of 'England and Wales' were used rather than the shortened 'England' , in recognition of the contribution made by our Welsh cousins...

Re: Ashes

james herriot lied — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:38:50 GMT

[quote user="Virginia Campbell"]

Always thought it a pity that Simon Jones got Test-career knackering injuries;

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Re: Ashes

james herriot lied — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:35:43 GMT

[quote user="Virginia Campbell"]

though Jonny Sexton did say what a honour it was to win his first Welsh cap ;-)

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I suspect he could pick up at least one more if he were willing to change his name to Dai Sexton and live in the Valleys for a few years. Fair Play.

And Christopher: Cardiff isn't part of Wales. Everybody knows that. Apart from the Millennium Stadium, which is more what you'd call a Diplomatic Mission on foreign soil. . Mind you, if the English Cricket Board can find a big enough, flat space that isn't currently being used for rugby, they're welcome to have a go at introducing cricket to the natives.

Brilliant summer so far - from the Lions through to Dasaolu's astonishing run yesterday. I fear the wheels will come off for the team in Moscow, but such is life.

Re: Ashes

Virginia Campbell — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:18:53 GMT

[quote user="Christopher Saul"]Glamorgan being a major county in English and Welsh Cricket. [/quote] Always thought it a pity that Simon Jones got Test-career knackering injuries; he was brilliant to watch in the 2005 Ashes which is when I started watching cricket. A sport that goes on for days and that you can doze off then wake up to watch the exciting bits is ideal for being on call 1 in 2 weekends when everyone else has gone to the beach.

It has been a great summer for British and Irish sport so far...though Jonny Sexton did say what a honour it was to win his first Welsh cap ;-)

Re: Ashes

Christopher Saul — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:49:18 GMT

[quote user="james herriot lied"]Welshman.[/quote]

Strictly speaking the team is England and Wales; the governing body in this country is the EWCB (England and Wales Cricket Board). Usually a home game is played in Cardiff, Glamorgan being a major county in English and Welsh Cricket.

Re: Ashes

james herriot lied — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:45:22 GMT

What, is there cricket on?

Although, to be honest, I'm just amazed that finally, a bunch of people played the game for five whole days and somebody actually won, for once. You'd have thought eighty minutes and a go at batting each would have been enough to see who was better at it.

Welshman. With a Scots-Irish wife and Cornish kids. Only the dog's English