R4 play/RCVS hearing

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Niall Taylor — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:07:19 GMT

[quote user="Robin Grimmer"]Am I the only one sniggering at the title of this thread ? [/quote]

Niall

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Robin Grimmer — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:27:20 GMT

Am I the only one sniggering at the title of this thread ?

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Bob Russell — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:50:44 GMT

I have downloaded the play to listen to later so don't know the details!

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:19:07 GMT

The problem, in this instance, was that by telling the owner to use the bute, the veterinary surgeon was causing it to be administered within a prohibited time before racing

Wynne

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Bob Russell — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:32:05 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]Secondly, I would have found a veterinary surgeon who told an owner to use medication originally prescribed for another animal guilty-maybe warning for those inclined to be lax in control of how POM(V) s are dipensed[/quote]

What was the situation? I can't see anything wrong with suggesting an owner gives some bute they have for another animal if it seems clinically necessary.

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I know this was only a story but I fail to see where the problem is for the animal being given bute originally prescribed for another horse. The use was on the recommendation of the vet ie: verbally prescribing bute. Where that bute comes from seems pretty unimportant to me as long as it is legally obtained, used under veterinary supervision, is in date etc. etc.

Transferring POM medicines between owners is far more of a problem than transferring one patient to another (on veterinary advice!).

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

James Laidlaw — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:41:24 GMT

We all know this is a fictional drama not factual, right?

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Michael Woodhouse — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:55:28 GMT

What was the situation? I can't see anything wrong with suggesting an owner gives some bute they have for another animal if it seems clinically necessary.

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

mariette asselbergs — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:26:44 GMT

Same thing with TB testing and welfare issues on large cattle farms.

Mariette

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Mark Hedberg — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:20:20 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

Veterinary surgeon was a wimp

Wynne

[/quote] No surprise - trainers and owners of horses have forced vets to dance to their tune for ages, only to sell them down the river at the drop of a hat or a disputed bill. Don't do what they say? You might never work at the stable again.

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Hannah Wynne Richards — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:56:12 GMT

PS to above Clinical inaccuracy-some metacarpal fractures can be plated

Wynne

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Hannah Wynne Richards — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:53:09 GMT

I listened to it. Debate on homeopathy much as expected-is it medication or not?

I thought 4 interesting points came up.

Firstly, it started with male defendant ruishing out of the room,saying he was about tobe sick-then conversation between him and female defence barrister. I couldn't helpwondering exactly where he was being sick. In foyer, and reception staff would be (shall we say ) displeased. In gents loo, and total consternation amongst male members of DC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Secondly, I would have found a veterinary surgeon who told an owner to use medication originally prescribed for another animal guilty-maybe warning for those inclined to be lax in control of how POM(V) s are dipensed

Thirdly, the defendant, although cleared of the original charges, condemned himself (under oath ) of false certification, but it would be the owner/trainer, not the veterinary surgeon who would fill in the Wetherby's form.

Fourthly-moral of the tale-make sure you,not the owners are in charge.

Quite frankly,the only human in the whole sorry tale I had any sympathy for was the groom-even though he lied under oath. Obviously I had enormous sympathy for poor "Elusive Alice" who paid with her life for the criminality of humans who had charge of her welfare.

Owner was a bully, and bullied trainer

Trainer was a bully, and bullied veterinary surgeon

Veterinary surgeon was a wimp

Wynne

Re: R4 play/RCVS hearing

Niall Taylor — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:34:06 GMT

Ooh, sounds intriguing. For me I have on the one hand - homeopathy [very interesting] but, on the other, horses [yawn]. I'm looking forward to hearing it.

Was any member of this, entirely fictitious, governing body a practicing homeopath by any chance?

Cheers,

Niall