Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

Re: Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

J G Wray — Tue, 07 May 2013 11:44:24 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]I've built nearly £20,000 sales of anthelmintics from next to nothing in the last year with a bit if effort. All that has gone out with the correct advise, if I was mercenary like the merchants I could have sold 50% more! People see I am competitive and offer the right product for their needs[/quote]

Hmmm, why do you think the merchants sell like they do? I think itt's probably to make a profit. So, what's profit for?

JGW

Re: Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

Michael Woodhouse — Sat, 04 May 2013 12:38:29 GMT

[quote user="J G Wray"]Do you know how much your drugs sales are subsidising your professional hourly rate? The most vulnerable in this scenario, with loss of privilege to dispense, not the delivery thing, are those with the highest levels of subsidy viz mixed practice/LA practice.[/quote]

I appreciate that, but the clients are happy with the status quo, as things stand. I have offered people cheap drugs and high fees and no-one has taken me up on it. They are bright enough to realise that by me making a few pounds when they take the bottle of antibiotic then their calving at 4am is affordable and I am still here.

If we are forced to change then we will. To ramp up the hourly rate and give drugs away at cost would be madness at this time. If our hand was forced (and I would strongly communicate that with the clients as well as doing whatever I legally could to still offer medicines, even if that meant employing a pharmacist and having another premises) then the clients would be far more understanding.

Good clients get FOC delivery. FOC advice. FOC post drench checks etc.

I've built nearly £20,000 sales of anthelmintics from next to nothing in the last year with a bit if effort. All that has gone out with the correct advise, if I was mercenary like the merchants I could have sold 50% more! People see I am competitive and offer the right product for their needs.

I'm not frightened of change, but if I am not making money I'm not working the hours I do. Simple.

Re: Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

J G Wray — Sat, 04 May 2013 08:56:39 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]If we lost the right to supply meds I can see a lot of vets opening up their own pharmacy a few doors away and employing a pharmacist[/quote]

Eh? what about the vets who don't and whathappens when these pharmacies compete?

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"] There is absolutely no way that most dispensing chemists would have the shelf space for a full range of vet drugs.[/quote]

Eh? commercial rents are cheap.

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]I honestly can't see Amazon ever managing to deliver anything to rural Wensleydale within the hour[/quote]

Rural Wensleydale is, well, rural Wensleydale. The generality of veterinary practice does not conform to the rural Wensleydale model. It is urban and semi-urban SA practice.

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]If it can be done in London then great. Good luck to them[/quote]

Do you know how much your drugs sales are subsidising your professional hourly rate? The most vulnerable in this scenario, with loss of privilege to dispense, not the delivery thing, are those with the highest levels of subsidy viz mixed practice/LA practice.

JGW

Re: Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

Michael Woodhouse — Fri, 03 May 2013 17:51:51 GMT

If we lost the right to supply meds I can see a lot of vets opening up their own pharmacy a few doors away and employing a pharmacist. There is absolutely no way that most dispensing chemists would have the shelf space for a full range of vet drugs.

I honestly can't see Amazon ever managing to deliver anything to rural Wensleydale within the hour. If it can be done in London then great. Good luck to them. I lived in central London for 2 years and you don't get very far in 1 hour........

Re: Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

J G Wray — Fri, 03 May 2013 14:44:53 GMT

[quote user="robloxley"]We do same minute delivery of drugs and food that we stock, at competitive prices.[/quote]

We all do, for now. I'm, as it says in the title of the thread contemplating balls which might be balls or the future - no privilege to dispense. I don't like having a business so dependent on drug sales with this on the horizon. The CC has not succeeded in achieving what it set out to do which is to provide transparency in the supply of meds particularly pricing. We are, effectively back where we were pre CC. When we were last in this position we got what we did from the CC and that "didn't work" , so what happens this time when, not if, the same sort of review happens?

With organisations like Shutl/Amazon delivering like we do, and with lower cost bases the public's supply of meds won't be compromised, so if you are CC or whatever why not put in a bit of Euro conformity to create the transparency so absent from veterinary practice medicines supply?

JGW

Re: Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

Rob Loxley — Fri, 03 May 2013 13:48:25 GMT

[quote user="J G Wray"]Why not drugs and dog food?[/quote]

We do same minute delivery of drugs and food that we stock, at competitive prices. If we chose we could do same day delivery in the local area, and I believe some practices do.

Re: Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

J G Wray — Fri, 03 May 2013 10:46:53 GMT

[quote user="John Flynn"]Join the Boycott Amazon campaign if you don't think it's fair for such widescale tax avoidance[/quote]

I wasn't referring to that and I don't believe in farting against thunder.

I'm working out how to look after my practice.

JGW

Re: Crystal balls Amazon Shutl

John Flynn — Fri, 03 May 2013 10:38:06 GMT

Join the Boycott Amazon campaign if you don't think it's fair for such widescale tax avoidance:

Check out the lead story on: http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/

While I don't seriously think that they'll suffer from me having withdrawn my trade for the time being (and informed them of the reason for this), I was surprised just how much I spent over the course of a year on amazon.

I think they offer a great consumer service, don't get me wrong, but I think I could offer a better service if I avoided paying tax also...