Joe Inglis' latest venture

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Tim Cheyne — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:10:44 GMT

[quote user="David Mills"]

Quite. Odd, though, because there's a PDSA in Edinburgh.

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Yes, but presumably this PDSA clinic does not include groups of students learning and honing their skills. Provided that the students still do EMS, I do not see that this situation is much different to what has gone on for years.

Tim.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

David Mills — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:33:07 GMT

[quote user="Tim Cheyne"]

Having sneaked a brief look at the Vet Record on-line (I am no longer a member of BVA) I wonder whether this is much different to the short periods that I spent in the fifties at the RVC Beaumont Animals Hospital, Camden Town. We attended on a rota in small groups, 'assisted' at consultations led usually by Gordon Knight or Churchill Frost, did one or more cat spays, and (very frequently) followed euthanised animals to autopsy. We were still required to do a minimum of 26 weeks extra-mural, or 'seeing practice' as it was then known. This 'Inglis procedure' seems to be replacing the free clinics that, presumably, the colleges have no longer.

Tim.

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Quite. Odd, though, because there's a PDSA in Edinburgh. Nice money earner all round I think; it's just the same stuff, rebranded.

RVC used to have a rotation at our place, groups of 5-6 for a week doing consultations, brought their own clinician. Axed this year due to funding. Very strange state of affairs really. The sooner the final year of clinical practice is taken out of academic veterinary referral centres the better I think, considering 95% of people will never work in academia or referral practice again. What use is scrubbing in to hold some retractors for 2 hours for a TPLO, watching an MRI, or cleaning out kennels at 2am when you can't spay a cat on day one? I do wonder what the RCVS is doing about this mess.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Tim Cheyne — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:24:47 GMT

Tim.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Thomas Johnson — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:18:39 GMT

[quote user="Gerry Henry"]

No, its a disgrace. I've had third years who have seen the grand total of 4 weeks practice;

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I would say that is normal for most of the vet schools, they do farm experience (16 weeks?) during the holidays of the first 2 years, then once they've got some theoretical knowledge they start seeing practice in 3rd year, and have to do 26 weeks.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Gerry Henry — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:19:59 GMT

No, its a disgrace. I've had third years who have seen the grand total of 4 weeks practice; i'd seen months and months of practice by then, mixed and SA, dehorned, cut calves, scrubbed and assisted etc etc. I did my first Hobday three months after qualifying (very well, thank you for asking). They're stuffed with theory and told ad nauseam that anything and everything remotely challenging should be referred, maybe it should because I doubt many of this lot could tackle it.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Michael Woodhouse — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:15:13 GMT

[quote user="Gerry Henry"]BTW this won't result in students seeing more practice, which, as far as the edinburgh undergrads is concerned is pitifully little, it just means the mite they do see will be in the one place. Makes for rounded practitioners doesn't it.[/quote]

That is a shame

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Gerry Henry — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:10:49 GMT

Its an appalling idea that was cooked up behind closed doors without wider discussion or involvement of the profession in central scotland. Never mind, the RDSVS having lost the better equine practices due to their crass marketing have now lost the SA practices too, their loss.

BTW this won't result in students seeing more practice, which, as far as the edinburgh undergrads is concerned is pitifully little, it just means the mite they do see will be in the one place. Makes for rounded practitioners doesn't it.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:06:57 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"]created by veterinary expert Joe Inglis."[/quote]

He's on telly. He's conventionally handsome. Of course he's an expert.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Bob Russell — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:04:46 GMT

[quote user="Alex Allen"]

Can I just repeat Martin's point as there seems to be some confusion in the thread - THIS IS NOT JOE INGLIS.

Inglis Vets in and around Dunfermline, Fife is run by Ken Davison and Adam Tjolle and IAIN Inglis is in Blantyre near Hamilton, Lanarkshire.

JOE Inglis's new set up in is Swindon.

They are not connected.

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I know!

The Iain Inglis et al. project is a really good idea and one to be fully supported by the profession IMO.

In a round about way I was trying to compare what I feel is good about the profession and what is not so good! Two ways to allow owners to get budget veterinary care. One a triumph of good ideas the other a triumph of marketing!

I should have been a lot clearer about 'linking' the two practices!

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Alex Allen — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:43:24 GMT

Can I just repeat Martin's point as there seems to be some confusion in the thread - THIS IS NOT JOE INGLIS.

Inglis Vets in and around Dunfermline, Fife is run by Ken Davison and Adam Tjolle and IAIN Inglis is in Blantyre near Hamilton, Lanarkshire.

JOE Inglis's new set up in is Swindon.

They are not connected.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Bob Russell — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:27:10 GMT

Some genuinely interesting ideas on Joe's website. Some nice IT ideas. I like the idea of selective pricing to fill the quiet periods but hate the links to his website suggesting he is an 'expert' veterinary surgeon!

His own website link on Google directs people:

"A new world of pet care. State-of-the-art veterinary centres, and an amazing interactive online media channel, created by veterinary expert Joe Inglis."

He is clearly a self-confessed expert, What a shame he still has dillusions of grandeur! Pretentious? Moi?

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Hannah Wynne Richards — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:37:10 GMT

More GP experience when students has to be a good idea What really riles me is another veterinary surgeon who has an alternative source of income implying that the rest of us are expensive when an impartialanalysis of fes/profits proves beyond any doubt that we as a profession are guilty of gross UNDER charging

Wynne

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

plantagenet — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:25:33 GMT

I see he is all over the Vet Times - heaven preserve us from TV vets. I really object to these people being made into celebrities / very rich on the basis of their camera appeal as students, then being held up as 'better' than the rest of us normal, unphotogenic vets.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:53:31 GMT

[quote user="Gerry Henry"]

Dunno but we won't be taking any more Edinburgh undergrads from here on.

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Gerry - is that because they have (in effect) contracted out all the seeing practice or because you disagree with the system?

Personally I think spending more time in general practice has to be a good thing, we spent far too long being glorified kennel maids in the specialist departments at college. More time spaying cats would be great.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Gerry Henry — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:35:58 GMT

Dunno but we won't be taking any more Edinburgh undergrads from here on.

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Emily Nightingale — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:01:47 GMT

My first thought was the Vets Kitchen dog food he is the face of. I have my dog on it btw (trialled a back reduced in Waitrose by 50%) and little Teddy loves it!!!! Just incase anyone wanted to know

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Stephen Courtney — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:17:08 GMT

Miaow.....

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Mark Hedberg — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:41:32 GMT

So, technically, Joe Inglis isn't being paid anything for this venture?

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Hannah Wynne Richards — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:20:21 GMT

Oh dear

Wynne

Re: Joe Inglis' latest venture

Martin Atkinson — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:17:18 GMT

Erm...I think you may find its more likely to be a different Inglis (Iain) rather than Ms Milne's ex beau (Joe)!!