malaseb

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Virginia Campbell — Tue, 15 May 2012 19:15:58 GMT

Any thoughts on the effectiveness of Microbex vs Malaseb?

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Martin Atkinson — Tue, 15 May 2012 10:16:58 GMT

[quote user="Andrew Henfrey"]

It was actually Ken Mason in Australia who first published about Malassezia MASON (K.V), EVANS (A.G.). - Dermatitis associated with Malassezia pachydermatis in 11 dogs. J. Amer. Animal .Hosp. Assn., 1991, 27, 13-20

He developed the shampoo and marketed it as Sebolyse. The referral dermatologists at the time used to import it directly from Australia until Leo acquired the European rights. However I am sure Ross Bond would be very happy if he had developed Malaseb!

[/quote] I stand corrected thank you Andrew, I had a feeling it wasn't Ross as I wrote my post - perhaps it was Ken who red-starred me! I would also concur with other posters as to the efficacy of Malaseb and find virtually no problems with its use, indeed I would say that other than expense, if I was given the choice of only one product to treat all my skin cases, other than anti-parasitic products, Malaseb would be it.

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Rob Loxley — Mon, 14 May 2012 20:16:31 GMT

I agree pretty much with Stephen, particularly as far as quite why such a vocal anti-malaseb noise from certain directions? What in Malaseb requires the animal to have seborrhoea (and exactly what kind of seborrhoea are we referring to)?; many of the dogs we use it in don't but it's a great shampoo for secondary mixed bacterial/yeast infections in atopic dogs IMHO.

We do also use a fair bit of Coatex medicated for similar presentations (along with various other shampoos for various other indications).

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Andrew Henfrey — Mon, 14 May 2012 19:59:16 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]So far as I understand it was developed by dermatologist Ross Bond in Australia some years ago, he realised the significance of Malassezia in chronic dermatitis and the simple expedience of putting an anti-yeast and anti-bacterial product in the same shampoo and thus it was born. [/quote]

Andrew

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Stephen Courtney — Mon, 14 May 2012 13:54:47 GMT

I think almost all itchy atopic type dogs have seborrhoea and Malassezia overgrowth, to varying extents. I also do not feel it excessively dries the skin, I always felt it to be a pretty hydrating/ moisturising type of shampoo.

I use a lot of it, because i like the results. clients come back for more, because they do too.

the only time I have seen it cause problems are a handful of cases that seemed to react badly to chlorhexidine itself. I have several dogs with dreadful skin that are maintained well, largely on eod malaseb washes where NOTHING else has worked. Where excessive dryness is a problem i advise hunilac. i have only one dog that regularly gets humilac as well as malaseb , and she is also on everything else i can think of - hydrolysed diet, essential oil supplements, zinc supplements, etc etc etc.

Incidentally, a few drops of neat malaseb shampoo on a pad of damp cotton wool makes a wonderful antiseptic and antifungal wipe for interditital and ear problems, can be used daily, often works wonders. It can also be diluted 1:30 in water as an ear cleaner, I have done this occasionally with intractable chronic otitis externa cases with multidrug resistant bacterial infections, sometimes with good results, sometimes not so good, but never made it worse. apparently in Australia you can buy malaseb ear wipes and ear cleaners ready made.

Not sure why the pro malaseb people are getting red starred at every opportunity, i await mine with interest!

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patrick murphy — Mon, 14 May 2012 12:31:39 GMT

thanks, I knew that someone had to have thought it up. genius.

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Martin Atkinson — Mon, 14 May 2012 10:38:15 GMT

[quote user="Mark Hedberg"]

Gosh, Mr One Star doesn't like Malaseb! :)

[/quote] At the time of writing I now have 2 gold stars instead of one red but Mr Red Star - I'd like to know exactly what I said that was wrong.

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Mark Hedberg — Mon, 14 May 2012 09:43:52 GMT

Gosh, Mr One Star doesn't like Malaseb! :)

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Martin Atkinson — Mon, 14 May 2012 09:07:42 GMT

So far as I understand it was developed by dermatologist Ross Bond in Australia some years ago, he realised the significance of Malassezia in chronic dermatitis and the simple expedience of putting an anti-yeast and anti-bacterial product in the same shampoo and thus it was born. I would say that it is the single most useful advance in the treatment of dermatitis and overnight transformed our ability to treat this condition easily without resort to more complex and damaging therapy.

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patrick murphy — Sun, 13 May 2012 11:18:05 GMT

I find it extremely useful. I did not want to set myself up for criticism, I simply wondered if anyone knew anything of it's history.This is not a clinical query, just a weird question, hence on this link.

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Mark Hedberg — Sat, 12 May 2012 22:29:14 GMT

The chlorhexidine in it is a very useful antiseptic, I think it's the ingredient that makes the most difference.

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John Rimmer — Sat, 12 May 2012 20:35:06 GMT

I'm confused. To me it's a shampoo for dogs with seborrhoea and Malassezia overgrowth (Mala-seb) that's overused (for every skin case that walks in the door) and misused and often dries skin out as a result. Find it very useful in its place, but no more exciting than any other product on the shelf.

It wasn't me who gave you the one star. Not sure why anyone would. But I am perplexed at your amazement at it - perhaps you could explain!