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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/non-clinical-questions/11030/bike-martin</link><description> This post is meant to continue a thread about bikes from a clinical forum, I thought it would be better to take it here instead. Martin asked for the bike I&amp;#39;m about to get.... 
 So, first I have to say that I&amp;#39;m probably as far away from being a proper</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60420?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:50:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:7345e54b-d4a5-4759-9249-a5b119091b92</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;For now will stick to the hardtail - doesn&amp;#39;t seem to hold me back too much ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/8712.Spain.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/8712.Spain.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/1680.Wales.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/1680.Wales.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60258?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:01:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:de69054b-965b-494c-a1d3-74610334ce8f</guid><dc:creator>Richard Fox</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I know Simon - were just a bunch of jesters &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes I love my HT - a great bike for the winter as its so simple and easy / cheep to keep running - I can&amp;#39;t wait to do the BM3D on teh Felt :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60256?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:46:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:c1913393-a4c9-4015-8d7f-d92f3f6ccba5</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Also just joking Richard! I have a do-it-all hardtail (Cotic Soul) for trail centre/Alpine/racing use (swap out the wheels for lighter ones when appropriate) and the SS rigid is for local short blasts in the woods - really refreshing to ride old familiar trails on the rigid bike and of course being SS it is maintenance free - once you get the chain tension right at least!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t have a full suss bike currently - 99% of the time I don&amp;#39;t miss it but there is the odd occasion - like last year&amp;#39;s Cape Epic!&amp;nbsp;when I think it would be great.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My current favourite though is my Cotic X cyclocross bike (yes there is a theme developing here!) which is incredibly fun. I really wish I&amp;#39;d bought a &amp;#39;cross bike sooner. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60252?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:07:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b33c2c33-7eef-4a1a-9310-e2fc3fd29158</guid><dc:creator>Richard Fox</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Martin - I was joking - I mean the bike wants to go faster then I can ride it ;) - try doing an 8 hour XC race on it on hard packed trails.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Simon - you may have a point but once you have ridden her you wont go back :) - its too hilly in Dartmoor for me to ride a Rigid SS - my knees would have been replaced by now!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The edict is my marathon bike for this year - up the hills d.t. to the suspension design it eliminates bob but on the flat trails its as plush as you like - I used to do down hilling on my Spesh Demo 8 (but got too old) and appreciate the rear suspension - my winter / play bike is my Kinesis XCPro3 but even with the carbon rear end is takes its toll after a few hours - My Five is now built into my ultimate trail bike with droppy seatpost :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/0250.Gravity_2D00_Enduro_2D00_Large_5B00_1_5D00_.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/0250.Gravity_2D00_Enduro_2D00_Large_5B00_1_5D00_.jpg" border="0" height="307" width="429" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.cyclistno1.co.uk/features/racing/sixsixone-gravity-enduro-eastridge.htm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/5226.P1040567_5B00_1_5D00_.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/5226.P1040567_5B00_1_5D00_.JPG" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.cyclistno1.co.uk/blog/bontrager-twentyfour-12.htm&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60250?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:51:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b2c620eb-e7dc-4114-b014-30f714996715</guid><dc:creator>Martin Atkinson</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Richard Fox&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My new Bike fully built - she&amp;#39;s like a bullet (I am not though, I get left behind on the trails &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt; )&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Very nice bike, Felt carbon monocoque &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Crying_smiley.gif" alt="Very sad" /&gt; Seriously though: do you really need rear suspension on trails?, that maybe one reason you&amp;#39;re being left behind - too much power loss in the suspension system. Lock out the&amp;nbsp;suspension&amp;nbsp;and swap those knobblies for some semi-slicks for dry weather then you&amp;#39;ll really fly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60240?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:52:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:14c035a1-f320-439e-98a7-085f8aab6a6b</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Richard Fox&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;My new Bike fully built - she&amp;#39;s like a bullet (I am not though, I get left behind on the trails &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt; )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/0334.Felt-Edict.jpg"&gt;&lt;img height="321" width="428" src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/0334.Felt-Edict.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Now I&amp;#39;m sure that&amp;#39;s a lovely bike Richard but it is a bit complicated isn&amp;#39;t it - what with all that suspension and gears and malarkey. And carbon? It&amp;#39;ll never catch on ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What you need is something a little more like this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/6201.shed-010.jpg"&gt;&lt;img height="354" width="550" src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/6201.shed-010.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60197?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:38:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ac77e3e8-c9bf-4b4c-b25d-0c8ec878983d</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Glad you are enjoying it! That&amp;#39;s far and away the most important thing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60194?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:18:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:acb966ac-3766-464f-93e1-08edc84eb57a</guid><dc:creator>Dagmar Steele</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe I owe you an update...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m enjoying the new bike and myself very much! I even managed to cycle the 20km to and 20km from work without serious muscle aches afterwards, so it seems my fitness isn&amp;#39;t just as bad as I thought (left the dog at home and did each tour in an hour). Dog is loving it as most lunch breaks we now ride on wood paths where she can roam free, but doesn&amp;#39;t like to follow me on the lead on tarmac as I&amp;#39;m a bit faster now (she&amp;#39;s like a b.... anchor sometimes :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, thanks all for firing me up, hope I&amp;#39;ll keep enjoying it and getting around to do bigger trips when the kids get more independent. At least I now do all my tasks in my hometown by bike &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/60191?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:58:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b3071d00-d3e2-4f91-8712-e8cbd28e2fa0</guid><dc:creator>Richard Fox</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;My new Bike fully built - she&amp;#39;s like a bullet (I am not though, I get left behind on the trails &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt; )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/0334.Felt-Edict.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/0334.Felt-Edict.jpg" border="0" height="321" width="428" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58340?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:08:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:448e8858-5860-471f-9daf-babc73136b61</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Todd</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Malcolm Ness&amp;quot;]loud and fast - &amp;nbsp;so I don&amp;#39;t really fit in here!!)[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aw, I dunno?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58289?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:46:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:0a9e081b-d65b-4cf1-b907-90142b4b63da</guid><dc:creator>Richard Fox</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Simon Neuhoff&amp;quot;]Got to say the image of men striding around in jodhpurs with&amp;nbsp;riding crops is far more offputting to me than lycra ;-) But each to his own![/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;+1 - Bob - feel free to start your own thread on horses? However unlike you I can resist posting about bikes &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Very_happy_smiley.png" alt="Very happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58288?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:35:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:56bca4b2-7752-497f-b654-1d884155244b</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Bob Russell&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/6165.20102011209.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/6165.20102011209.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/6165.20102011209.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Men and Lycra&amp;nbsp;conjure up images too horrendous to contemplate. A bit like the jean-like&amp;nbsp;jodhpurs in our tack room dating back to the days when I was a lot fitter and riding most days!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Horse is gone and so is my waistline!!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Got to say the image of men striding around in jodhpurs with&amp;nbsp;riding crops is far more offputting to me than lycra ;-) But each to his own!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58277?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:55:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b0b9e40b-fc68-43f3-8054-c1adb0d89697</guid><dc:creator>Bob Russell</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetsurgeon.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/6165.20102011209.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Men and Lycra&amp;nbsp;conjure up images too horrendous to contemplate. A bit like the jean-like&amp;nbsp;jodhpurs in our tack room dating back to the days when I was a lot fitter and riding most days!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58276?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:48:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:2ebbda09-9f8e-424b-b95d-a9191e657455</guid><dc:creator>Malcolm Ness</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This thread is just like Top Gear but without the smell of petrol.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;(My bike is a Triumph Street Triple. Bright red, 675cc, loud and fast - &amp;nbsp;so I don&amp;#39;t really fit in here!!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58226?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:04:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:9548796f-88c7-487c-a6aa-821f937d6f09</guid><dc:creator>Richard Fox</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you - yes I am very made up with my new bike - its a long termer frame for a bike magazine I write for: &lt;a  target='_blank'  target="_blank" href="http://www.cyclistno1.co.uk"&gt;www.cyclistno1.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58218?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:42:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:fb468f33-35e3-4944-a249-78969e822fbd</guid><dc:creator>Dagmar Steele</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Neil Wheadon&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Finally your children are 9 and 12. I&amp;#39;ve seen a lot of children put off by heavy &amp;#39;&amp;pound;90&amp;#39; bikes. Islabikes are superb, expensive yes, but if you get a second hand one will sell for almost the same price 3 years later. They are like hens teeth to find second hand&amp;nbsp;but even buying new at &amp;pound;350 and selling 3 years later at &amp;pound;200-250, means approx &amp;pound;50/year for childhood cycling pleasure. James our eldest (14) is doing a 106km Audax with me this W/E on his Islabike and he&amp;#39;s enjoy it as the bike he has is light and fast&amp;nbsp; &lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://www.islabikes.co.uk/"&gt;http://www.islabikes.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; Have fun&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Neil&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS You don&amp;#39;t know of a chateau or complex in Northern Germany that can accomodate 46 people do you (10 famiies) as&amp;nbsp;I need one for a CTC family tour in 2013?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Hi Neill,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks, sounds very encouraging! I think I will enjoy it for quite a while, only two more days and I can pick it up... The kids have very nice bikes and enjoy riding them, they are much faster than me anyway :-) (don&amp;#39;t know the make, but they were about 400 Euros each)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re the venue: How posh do you want it? I happen to know an old watermill in the countryside that can easily accomodate that amount of people. They are very friendly and do speak English, but they are not posh at all. It&amp;#39;s rather local bio food, very yummy! than fine-dining and most of the rooms are doubles or family rather than single rooms. But it&amp;#39;s situated in a very nice area away from major cities. I go there on a regular basis for music workshops, but I know you can rent the whole thing for family festivities. web adress: www.Proitzer-Muehle.de&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you think you might like this, give Heike a call and give her my best!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58208?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:35:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:dc8ac69a-1465-4947-b86d-7cfd762aeb88</guid><dc:creator>Neil Wheadon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Dagmar&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Returning to the question. The bike looks a good choice. Price determines a lot and spending about 750 euros will buy a bike that will last and more importantly be a joy to cycle compared to a bike costing what&amp;nbsp;I would pay for a derailler&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The weight is 13.5kg which is about the same weight as my bespoke Mercian Tourer that goes all over the world, so getting up the hills won&amp;#39;t be an issue. The gearing is 27, so assume you&amp;#39;ve got a triple on the front and 9 on the back. I have this too and the issues with chain breakage with a narrow chain are reduced these days (10 speed chains are more flaky) If you are having trouble getting up hills, count the teeth on the freewheel on the back. I&amp;#39;d expect 32. Combined with a 24 on the front, should mean you will climb walls. The brakes are hydrolic disc which are looking like standard kit these days. The groupset is Shimano, but then again isn&amp;#39;t everything? The Deore type you have is the mid range and for your cycling is perfectly adequate. The tyres are Schwalbe, again a good choice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My best advice for anyone buying a bike is&amp;nbsp; Spend as much as you can afford, Buy last years bike, cycling has gone like anything else these days, fashion is everything, for some being seen on last years bike is a no-no, for others it&amp;#39;s bargain time. Finally get a good frame that fits, Cannondale for example have a lifetime guarentee. You will wear out the components so can always upgrade as needed. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Finally your children are 9 and 12. I&amp;#39;ve seen a lot of children put off by heavy &amp;#39;&amp;pound;90&amp;#39; bikes. Islabikes are superb, expensive yes, but if you get a second hand one will sell for almost the same price 3 years later. They are like hens teeth to find second hand&amp;nbsp;but even buying new at &amp;pound;350 and selling 3 years later at &amp;pound;200-250, means approx &amp;pound;50/year for childhood cycling pleasure. James our eldest (14) is doing a 106km Audax with me this W/E on his Islabike and he&amp;#39;s enjoy it as the bike he has is light and fast&amp;nbsp; &lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://www.islabikes.co.uk/"&gt;http://www.islabikes.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; Have fun&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Neil&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS You don&amp;#39;t know of a chateau or complex in Northern Germany that can accomodate 46 people do you (10 famiies) as&amp;nbsp;I need one for a CTC family tour in 2013?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58206?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:19:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:ec1855df-1f6b-4711-b146-6dbeeec925e3</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Doing the Etape! ;-) Acte II, in the Pyrenees. But on MUCH cheaper wheels!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58160?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:46:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:9f3ac3f0-cdc5-460d-ac9d-1d8196b42f09</guid><dc:creator>Anthony Todd</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;First, get these wheels: [Pure bike-porn]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://www.madfiber.com/tubular-ceramic-road-wheels-article"&gt;http://www.madfiber.com/tubular-ceramic-road-wheels-article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then do the etape.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So my son tells me, and if you&amp;#39;re really keen you could spin whilst consulting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, as he says &amp;quot;Ha! tell them that cycling is about enduring mild discomfort for long periods of time...!&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/58129?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:39:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:9a587dcb-d3e8-4e10-8990-edb46f2bd694</guid><dc:creator>karen jones</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Just downloaded&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;Obsessive Compulsive Cycling Disorder&amp;#39; by Dave Barter from Amazon for my&amp;nbsp;kindle&amp;nbsp;(77p) I think it sounds like the ideal book for you obsessive cyclists. Watched lots of men in lycra this weekend on Eurosport. strade bianchi. Paris -Nice , racing across Italy form sea to sea ( I have a cycling obsessed husband). .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;working this&amp;nbsp;weekend&amp;nbsp;so stuck at home when not lambing the ever lasting supply of sheep that have bothered me all weekend&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/57944?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 20:15:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:dae6b26c-fb72-4489-89e4-a4b65796133c</guid><dc:creator>Simon Neuhoff</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Julian Earl&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Martin Atkinson&amp;quot;] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Robin Grimmer&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[OK Martin - what bikes do you have?&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Happy_smiley.png" alt="Happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Massi Cendra Scandium frame with carbon fork, Campagnolo 11 speed carbon Record, Campagnolo Neutron Ultra wheels (at present) with a few trick bits weighs 7kg (race and Sunday best bike).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thorn Cyclosportif Reynolds 725 conical steel custom build frame, Campagnolo 11 speed carbon Chorus, DT Swiss handbuilt wheels (training/audax/touring bike)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Focus Cross-Pro, Shimano Dura-Ace, Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels (cyclo-cross bike)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kinesis Aluminium framed hard tail (branded as Popcorn Wizzard by LBS), Shimano XTR, DT Swiss wheels, Rockshox Judy front forks (MTB)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dahon-Kalkhoff folding bike (nothing special)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;a lot of spare wheels and other bits and pieces.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like this game! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m &lt;span style="text-decoration:line-through;"&gt;not quite as ancient&lt;/span&gt; slightly more youthful than Martin but I have the same condition. Raced for years, on-road, off-road, sportives, etc., etc. The&amp;nbsp;shed contains:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Trek&amp;nbsp;Madone, carbon, merely 10sp Dura Ace. Sportives are the thing now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dolan carbon road racing with Ultegra. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ribble winter bike with odd looking things on the wheels... oh, yes, I remember, I think they&amp;#39;re called mudguards. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;753 TT bike, HED wheels, getting destroyed by being on the turbo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Orange Vitamin T for afore-mentioned cross and MTB racing. Largely gathering dust nowadays. Rockshox Judy forks going off in the cupboard - no point making it too easy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mavic Helium wheels and many other assorted parts going spare.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ll take that Vitamin T off your hands ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/57899?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:44:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:8ab18732-c02f-43f2-b065-35484c927c95</guid><dc:creator>Julian Earl</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Richard Fox&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;I am a MTBer but doing a fair few road miles of late - however I have just acquired my new MTB frame :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010203.JPG"&gt;&lt;img height="300" width="400" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010203.JPG" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010204.JPG"&gt;&lt;img height="300" width="400" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010204.JPG" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010205.JPG"&gt;&lt;img height="300" width="400" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010205.JPG" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010206.JPG"&gt;&lt;img height="400" width="400" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010206.JPG" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914777/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010203.JPG"&gt;&lt;img height="300" width="400" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010207.JPG" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010208.JPG"&gt;&lt;img height="300" width="400" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010208.JPG" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010209.JPG"&gt;&lt;img height="300" width="400" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010209.JPG" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010211.JPG"&gt;&lt;img height="300" width="400" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010211.JPG" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is gorgeous. I feel a little bit jealous. Mind you, n+1 did somebody say? &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Light.png" alt="Idea" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/57878?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:35:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:cd1a653b-2eeb-4681-bedc-12fd0da6b916</guid><dc:creator>Gillian Mostyn</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;seems to me you might be a tiny ickle bit proud of your new bike frame - bless! &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/57814?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:40:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:feb056f4-5be4-416a-9a64-1d31e51b4795</guid><dc:creator>Richard Fox</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I am a MTBer but doing a fair few road miles of late - however I have just acquired my new MTB frame :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010203.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010203.JPG" height="300" width="400" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010204.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010204.JPG" height="300" width="400" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010205.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010205.JPG" height="300" width="400" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010206.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010206.JPG" height="400" width="400" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914777/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010203.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010207.JPG" height="300" width="400" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010208.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010208.JPG" height="300" width="400" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010209.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010209.JPG" height="300" width="400" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010211.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9914773/Felt%20Edict%202012%20Framset/P1010211.JPG" height="300" width="400" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Bike/Martin</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/57807?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:06:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:61abfc5b-573e-4149-9ae4-6d7cf26ba804</guid><dc:creator>Julian Earl</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Martin Atkinson&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Robin Grimmer&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[OK Martin - what bikes do you have?&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Happy_smiley.png" alt="Happy" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div style="CLEAR:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Massi Cendra Scandium frame with carbon fork, Campagnolo 11 speed carbon Record, Campagnolo Neutron Ultra wheels (at present) with a few trick bits weighs 7kg (race and Sunday best bike).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thorn Cyclosportif Reynolds 725 conical steel custom build frame, Campagnolo 11 speed carbon Chorus, DT Swiss handbuilt wheels (training/audax/touring bike)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Focus Cross-Pro, Shimano Dura-Ace, Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels (cyclo-cross bike)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kinesis Aluminium framed hard tail (branded as Popcorn Wizzard by LBS), Shimano XTR, DT Swiss wheels, Rockshox Judy front forks (MTB)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dahon-Kalkhoff folding bike (nothing special)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;a lot of spare wheels and other bits and pieces.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;[/quote]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like this game! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m &lt;span style="text-decoration:line-through;"&gt;not quite as ancient&lt;/span&gt; slightly more youthful than Martin but I have the same condition. Raced for years, on-road, off-road, sportives, etc., etc. The&amp;nbsp;shed contains:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Trek&amp;nbsp;Madone, carbon, merely 10sp Dura Ace. Sportives are the thing now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dolan carbon road racing with Ultegra. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ribble winter bike with odd looking things on the wheels... oh, yes, I remember, I think they&amp;#39;re called mudguards. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;753 TT bike, HED wheels, getting destroyed by being on the turbo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Orange Vitamin T for afore-mentioned cross and MTB racing. Largely gathering dust nowadays. Rockshox Judy forks going off in the cupboard - no point making it too easy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mavic Helium wheels and many other assorted parts going spare.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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