Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Re: Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:07:00 GMT

[quote user="Richard Fox"]

....if positive she need to improve her hygiene/husbandry dramatically - it is a good indicator of below par husbandry!

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Another reason why I despise breeders.

Re: Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Richard Fox — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:05:47 GMT

Oh dear

Lab should report what is present and not interpret unless it is reviewed by a vet and co-signed etc.

I would not prescribe anything as you only have her word to what she has sent etc? I would require that she submit a fresh sample to you for toroughness and as said above test for other infectious agents as coccidia may not be responsible!

Coccidiosis can be a clinical problem in young animals or immunosuppressed animals but I would think that large numbers in adult cats maybe significant but low numbers prob not (repeatedly) but if positive she need to improve her hygiene/husbandry dramatically - it is a good indicator of below par husbandry!

(sorry for the suggested answer, clicked the wrong box again!)

Re: Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Rob Davis — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:59:10 GMT

[quote user="alex gough"]Is it legal for a lab to give a diagnosis direct to the owner? If they aren't a vet, they arent allowed to give a diagnosis, and if they are a vet, they are giving a diagnosis to an animal not under their care.[/quote]

I guess there's nothing wrong witht the lab making a factual report (eg there is e. coli or coccidial oocysts present in the faeces), but neither they nor the owner can technically diagnose whether or not that is clinically significant.

Re: Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Alex Gough — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:43:31 GMT

Is it legal for a lab to give a diagnosis direct to the owner? If they aren't a vet, they arent allowed to give a diagnosis, and if they are a vet, they are giving a diagnosis to an animal not under their care.

alex

Re: Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Martin Atkinson — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:04:01 GMT

[quote user="Kishor Mahind"]

3) How do people deal with this sort of breeder clients who demand treatments.

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The fact that I have no 'breeder' clients tells a story of how I deal with them, life is too short too take this sort of aggro. I would however get up to speed about recommended methods of treatment not least so if she is wrong you can have the satisfaction of shooting her down in flames.

Re: Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Mark Rowland — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:36:41 GMT

There are recognised veterinary labs offering these services for clients. I would look at the lab report and if it is reputable, act on it, charging a consult fee, and drugs and keeping your cat breeder. If the report is from a lab that isnt reputable, the previous posts are appropriate. If you offer repeat tests and get the same result, you will probably have a disgruntled breeder wanting their money back and moving elsewhere. It depends on the lab really imo

Re: Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Bob Russell — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:11:54 GMT

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E Coli? What a surprise!!!

I would recommend you suggest a proper faecal test done by a recognised lab if the breeder is genuinely worried. Discuss giardiosis, campylobacter, salmonella, parvovirus, coronavirus, rotavirus etc etc and make the client realise that this is not the way to behave. How was the sample sent? How quickly did it arrive? What qualifications do the lab staff have? Offer to speak to them directly.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Do not give in to this nonsense under any circumstances. If you allow your professional knowledge to be replaced with internet chat and breeders experience there will be nothing but problems.

I find Giardia and coronavirus seem to be main culprits in catteries. Don't forget good old roundworms as well!

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Sorry the real answer is the breeder starts to listen and do what I advise or they move to a practice down the road!

Re: Breeder's diagnosis of coccidiosis!

Bob Russell — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:09:40 GMT

E Coli? What a surprise!!!

I find Giardia and coronavirus seem to be main culprits in catteries. Don't forget good old roundworms as well!