Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Bob Russell — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:57:54 GMT

We have been chasing a report but nothing so far from the ophthalmologist.

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Richard Carter — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:47:55 GMT

[quote user="Bob Russell"] be routine ultrasound to watch my dogs spleen[/quote]

had a big shock when being demonstrated ultrasound machines on my own dog found a small splenic haemangioma/sarc. She died from other causes in the end though

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Hannah Wynne Richards — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:26:48 GMT

Just a general impression that it is

Wynne

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

mariette asselbergs — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:06:55 GMT

Panacur, why better than milbemax Wynne?

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Hannah Wynne Richards — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:42:42 GMT

I'd still go for panacur-and woild defend my decision in Court if necessary

Wynne

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Bob Russell — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:19:09 GMT

I am waiting to hear from Novartis but I have a feeling that there are some useful changes in the license round the corner. I may be wrong about that though!

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Sandra Milburn — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:59:07 GMT

Not sure if this is a common presentation of lungworm, but of all the cases I have seen (and diagnosed), none ever presented for coughing! The above 2 cases had no bleeding anywhere else (petechiae/echymoses), although the Rottie did start bleeding into the abdomen after a few days.
If using Milbemax, it has to be used weekly for lungworm and I seem to think it is only licensed as a preventative, not a treatment.

Re. 'lungworm' areas, I do think that the boundaries are much less clearly defined these areas and I would always consider bearing this little sucker in mind for all sorts of bleeding issues.

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Hannah Wynne Richards — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:52:12 GMT

I'd gofor lungworm or rodenticide-bit old for 1st presentation of a hereditary coagulopathy

After all lungworm has to start somewhere-we didn't think we had it 15 years ago

Wynne

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Bob Russell — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:49:23 GMT

We are not in a known lungworm area but having said that the dog does travel and the owners get their wormers on the internet!

We routinely use milbemax as a practice but these owners don't!

Is this a common presentation for lungworm? Would there be signs of clotting abnormalities elsewhere?

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Simon Neuhoff — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:23:41 GMT

Lungworm would be top of my list too.

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Sandra Milburn — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:26:38 GMT

I have seen a GSD (4 yrs) and a Rottie (about 8 yrs) both with unilateral hyphema (separate owners and at different times) and both had lungworm.

Hope you get some results from the ophthalmologist, would be interesting to know what it was in the end.

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Bob Russell — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:20:26 GMT

My suspicion is haemangiosarcoma. Spleen was not enlarged but seemed a little firmer than I would expect. I will chase up the report! There was no petechial haemorrhage so my original suspicion was trauma.

May be routine ultrasound to watch my dogs spleen.

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Gareth C. — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:14:03 GMT

haemangiosarcoma, lymphoma? bilateral suggests systemic involvement. had a similar ase in a collie that had a lymphoma primary tumour in spleen. I'd get a report (then post what the dx was)

Re: Intraoccular bleeding in GSD

Richard Carter — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:30:30 GMT

Why would a clotting disorder only be seen in his eyes? I would have thought if generalised would be seen in other areas as well esp mouth. Blood smear to check all cell lines present & PCV would be my first step. If already deceased a bone marrow smear?