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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>The General Health Exam</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/9191/the-general-health-exam</link><description> Some of the discussion in the thread on Cheap Vets got me thinking. 
 I want you to assume a reasonably standard 10min consult slot for an &amp;quot;annual vaccination and general health check&amp;quot; (priced as a composite price). 
 Do you have a &amp;#39;checklist of essentials</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: The General Health Exam</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/44329?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:50:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:54ce180f-9f4c-4730-8bcf-3be061159725</guid><dc:creator>Nicola Lawlor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Stephen Courtney&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Approach to a general health exam:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Visual inspection as animal comes into the consult room.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Weight checked, recorded, compared with previous visits. While this is happening, friendly interrogation about general well being, appetite and toielt and thirst, exercise tolerance. any specific concerns?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Start at the nose and work backwards. Look at everything, feel everything, have a sniff. Good look at teeth and ears and any skin folds, palpate and manipulate everything. check the coat, look for fleas and other parasites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4. auscult chest, while feeling pulses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;5. Abdominal palpation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;6. Look under the tail. Inspect genitalia. May or may not do anal glands or rectal/ vaginal exam - depending on history and presentation etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Variations on the theme are common however! I should be able to do this well within a couple of minutes. Discussing findings can take a lot longer, then coming up with a plan, estimates etc....&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/headbang2.gif" alt="Frustrated" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Pretty much this also, but all cases individual. Obviously a lot harder to examine eyes and ears of the bouncy or aggressive patients etc but also some owners have specific concerns or there are issues that need further discussion/examination etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The General Health Exam</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/44316?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:50:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:945d6612-fb04-4e3a-b0eb-ee37aaa07ac3</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;What Stephen said, except that I don&amp;#39;t weigh them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I cannot see the point of taking the temperature as a fixed part of the routine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope I would detect something more subtle than a &amp;quot;football-sized tumour&amp;quot; on abdominal palpation. &amp;nbsp;Of course palpation can only to a certain extent be &lt;b&gt;taught&lt;/b&gt;, it has to be &lt;b&gt;learnt. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;Owners sometimes ask me &amp;quot;What are you feeling for?&amp;quot; and I answer &amp;quot;I&amp;#39;m not feeling &lt;b&gt;for&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;anything, I&amp;#39;m feeling the abdominal organs because it&amp;#39;s the only way to examine them&amp;quot; or words to that effect. Palpate all the readily-accessible lymph nodes I can think of: if there were one enlarged, it would be a pity to miss it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t use an ophthalmoscope every time (but I&amp;#39;m wondering if I should); but I do on older cats and on any animal if there is a query about the eyes. The otoscope, only if there is concern about the ears.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obviously every animal has its teeth and mouth examined properly. &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Angel_smiley.png" alt="Innocent" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At least ten minutes are allowed . This gives plenty of time for the client to mention any problems or concerns they have, whether they volunteer them (especially when I have my stethoscope in........ but that phenomenon is another thread!) or I draw them out in conversation. &amp;nbsp;Sorry if this sounds a bit &lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Angel_smiley.png" alt="Innocent" /&gt; too, but five minutes is just not enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The General Health Exam</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/44310?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:54:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:4216fc58-991c-478d-8574-d4d958337f83</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Would you include checking the rectal temperature? If so, cats as well as dogs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do people generally use tools (e.g. otoscope and ophthalmoscope) as part of standard general health exam?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve seen some practices that advise bringing a (fresh-ish) urine sample for dogs and doing dipstick and refractometry as part of standard, but does anyone this side of the Atlantic take a blood and urine sample for &amp;#39;minimum database&amp;#39; every year?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I always feel rather self-conscious when a vet student is watching and asks what I&amp;#39;m checking for when I examine a healthly animal prior to vaccination: I poke the abdomen (brief deep abdominal palpation) and explain that the only thing I&amp;#39;m likely to pick up on is a football-sized tumour, then I do the &amp;#39;lymphoma check&amp;#39; on the superficial lymph nodes and query in my head whether routine palpation of the prescap&amp;#39;s is really necessary...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find myself doing a lot more talking (and listening of course!) in the general health exam these days and probably less poking / probing as a result - not sure if this is a bad habit developing or not...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Topics for discussion that are most frequent and take the longest are probably:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Weight loss and diet&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Behavioural problems (usually aggressive towards other dogs, separation anxiety or barking)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chronic / recurrent otitis&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Teeth-stuff&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The General Health Exam</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/44301?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:20:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:912cd18a-d2b6-4ccc-804b-945bcd2fd27e</guid><dc:creator>mariette asselbergs</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;In my &amp;nbsp;(cheap) dentist they have a very efficient system: while sitting in the waiting room you have to fill in a general health checklist of questions, and I think that this could be very efficient for us. We don&amp;#39;t need to spent time weighing a pet the owner can do that. &amp;nbsp;Essential questions about drinking, vomiting and diarrhoea, worming and flea control, stamina, seasons, behaviour, itchiness, eye and ear trouble, coughing, lumps and bumps, etc, all of this &amp;nbsp;the owner can check off, and we don&amp;#39;t have to waste expensive time on it. Especially if all of it can be ticked off as no problem. &amp;nbsp;It even serves to make the owner aware of what kind of things to look out for. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To me the health check varies totally with age, and may be some notorious problem breeds. But with a bouncy 2 year old lab, or wriggly staffy I am not worried to do the basics and vaccinate. As age progresses &amp;nbsp;I do pay more and more attention to kidneys, diabetes, possible pyo&amp;#39;s, lumps and bumps. &amp;nbsp;To be honest, fleas, worms, anal glands, itchy ears, &amp;nbsp;smelly mouths, weight problems, none of them would keep me from vaccinating. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the owner feels they are a problem then they come consulting me with a problem. &amp;nbsp;If I detect them during a vaccination but the owner had not seen them as a problem, then I can feel I am acting in the interest of the animal&amp;#39;s welfare, but &amp;nbsp;to be provokingly honest, I am also serving my business selling all the stuff for these very minor problems am I not? &amp;nbsp;Again gold standard can go very far these days, but many people are happy with basic standard. &amp;nbsp;Think of the difference when buying a second hand ford fiesta or a new mercedes. In the last case the seller will spend hours with you, friendly chatting away, gold standard but you pay for it too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The General Health Exam</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/44298?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:15:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:8e7ccfe1-dd95-404c-9e97-6cb5ca035493</guid><dc:creator>James Laidlaw</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Stephen Courtney&amp;quot;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Approach to a general health exam:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Visual inspection as animal comes into the consult room.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Weight checked, recorded, compared with previous visits. While this is happening, friendly interrogation about general well being, appetite and toielt and thirst, exercise tolerance. any specific concerns?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Start at the nose and work backwards. Look at everything, feel everything, have a sniff. Good look at teeth and ears and any skin folds, palpate and manipulate everything. check the coat, look for fleas and other parasites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4. auscult chest, while feeling pulses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;5. Abdominal palpation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;6. Look under the tail. Inspect genitalia. May or may not do anal glands or rectal/ vaginal exam - depending on history and presentation etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Variations on the theme are common however! I should be able to do this well within a couple of minutes. Discussing findings can take a lot longer, then coming up with a plan, estimates etc....&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/headbang2.gif" alt="Frustrated" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;What he said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The General Health Exam</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/44297?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:10:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3b2f69cf-bfc1-419d-a3b7-d9848f205931</guid><dc:creator>Stephen Courtney</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Approach to a general health exam:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Visual inspection as animal comes into the consult room.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Weight checked, recorded, compared with previous visits. While this is happening, friendly interrogation about general well being, appetite and toielt and thirst, exercise tolerance. any specific concerns?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Start at the nose and work backwards. Look at everything, feel everything, have a sniff. Good look at teeth and ears and any skin folds, palpate and manipulate everything. check the coat, look for fleas and other parasites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4. auscult chest, while feeling pulses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;5. Abdominal palpation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;6. Look under the tail. Inspect genitalia. May or may not do anal glands or rectal/ vaginal exam - depending on history and presentation etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Variations on the theme are common however! I should be able to do this well within a couple of minutes. Discussing findings can take a lot longer, then coming up with a plan, estimates etc....&lt;img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/headbang2.gif" alt="Frustrated" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>