https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/8988/bat-been-found-on-the-ground---no-bat-carer-nearby-advice Any ideas about what to do with a bat that&#39;s been brought in by a member of the public today, found by her neighbour in a car park. The bat isn&#39;t showing any obvious sign of illness of injury, is moving about fine but haven&#39;t see it fly as it&#39;s beenen-USTelligent Community 10https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/42840?ContentTypeID=1Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:58:07 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:673921a6-5d15-4b3c-a3bb-2eba4ae1e8f3Tim Cheyne<p>Having seen, autopsied and researched various cases of suspected rabies in various species&nbsp;abroad&nbsp;, I believe that there probably are different strains of rabies virus but they are all equally, frighteningly, dangerous to humans and are not to be trifled with.</p> <p>Tim.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/42834?ContentTypeID=1Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:52:46 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:b67a82e5-9f5b-4be7-a05a-0c074460cfbcGerry Henry<p>[quote user=&quot;Stephen Courtney&quot;] <p><strong>Bat Lyssa virus is Rabies - pure and simple. Pretending it is otherwise is a political stance, nothing more</strong>. I&#39;m vaccinated up to the eyeballs, 20 years worth, my titre is high enough to passport 10 dogs at once - and I&#39;m still careful with bats.</p> <p>Wild animals are not pets. they don&#39;t enjoy contact with humans, it terrifies them. i think very carefully about what I do TO ( rather than for) these animals.</p> <p>Cat-mauled pigeons usually got to Devon ( how cats manage to catch Woodies i don&#39;t know, because they beat the crap out of me!). Same with seagulls. Peregrine falcons, I got the extra mile. Foxes are usually moribund when I get to see them, same with badgers. but badgers scare me. Big teeth, and TB. Hedgehogs are cute providing they aren&#39;t too flystruck or strimmer casualties. Baby birds we try, otherwise the nurses get mutinous. I love baby pigeons, they are just so revolting to look at , you have to love them.</p> <p>My boss got a call out to a local beach to euth a stranded dolphin - very sad, apparently you find veins in the tail flippers. Nice trick on a dark wintery night...</p> <p>My first wildlife call out in Essex was from the police, to a deer RTA. Fresh out from Africa, i had no idea how big a stag actually was. i was grateful for two things, firstly that it wasn&#39;t my windscreen the poor thing had burst through, and secondly that it was deceased. A 20ml syringe full of lethobarb and a badly injured deer in a ditch in the dark...would not have been a happy tale.</p> <div style="CLEAR:both;"></div> [/quote]</p> <p>Agreed; when I was in the ministry we got a monthly digest of cases from which &#39;Rabies like virus&#39; had been isolated; when I asked the DVO what the difference was between &#39;Rabies&#39; and &#39;Rabies like virus&#39; I got a very old fashioned look; we have bats round our farm, any casualties are PTSd, no question.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/42825?ContentTypeID=1Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:08:02 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:89cbae8d-81cc-43c1-89c6-6e93cd38ebc3Stephen Courtney<p>Quite agree about stranded cetaceans. I think it happens because they are unwell. Clearly they all need antibiotics , fluids and tube feeding....<img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Winking_smiley.gif" alt="Wink" /></p> <p>Problem is it becomes political, and that means everyone rushes around tormenting them for days before they die.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/42813?ContentTypeID=1Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:19:02 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:7719f7ee-4567-4623-b249-48d49480b17eEvelyn Barbour-Hill<p>I&#39;m about to make myself unpopular. <img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/devil.png" alt="Mischievous" /></p> <p>What exactly is the point of treating sick or seriously injured wild animals of non-endangered species?</p> <p>Yes, I do treat some. Birds other than gulls and feral pigeons usually get 24 hours warm-dark-quiet treatment but any unfit for release after that get euthanased. Raptors however we try very hard with, just because I like them, but I wouldn&#39;t mend broken bones.Hedgehogs we think about but we don&#39;t go to great lengths.</p> <p>The public get very excited about stranded cetaceans, but in my part of the world (because the cetaceans that inhabit it are species that generally live near to land, so they understand all about shores and are not very likely to strand by mistake) cetaceans usually come ashore because they are dying. Pushing them into the sea again is not a humane thing to do in that case.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/42791?ContentTypeID=1Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:53:17 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:330d09c7-3a50-4c09-90c7-29be4602a2b9Stephen Courtney<p>Bat Lyssa virus is Rabies - pure and simple. Pretending it is otherwise is a political stance, nothing more. I&#39;m vaccinated up to the eyeballs, 20 years worth, my titre is high enough to passport 10 dogs at once - and I&#39;m still careful with bats.</p> <p>Wild animals are not pets. they don&#39;t enjoy contact with humans, it terrifies them. i think very carefully about what I do TO ( rather than for) these animals.</p> <p>Cat-mauled pigeons usually got to Devon ( how cats manage to catch Woodies i don&#39;t know, because they beat the crap out of me!). Same with seagulls. Peregrine falcons, I got the extra mile. Foxes are usually moribund when I get to see them, same with badgers. but badgers scare me. Big teeth, and TB. Hedgehogs are cute providing they aren&#39;t too flystruck or strimmer casualties. Baby birds we try, otherwise the nurses get mutinous. I love baby pigeons, they are just so revolting to look at , you have to love them.</p> <p>My boss got a call out to a local beach to euth a stranded dolphin - very sad, apparently you find veins in the tail flippers. Nice trick on a dark wintery night...</p> <p>My first wildlife call out in Essex was from the police, to a deer RTA. Fresh out from Africa, i had no idea how big a stag actually was. i was grateful for two things, firstly that it wasn&#39;t my windscreen the poor thing had burst through, and secondly that it was deceased. A 20ml syringe full of lethobarb and a badly injured deer in a ditch in the dark...would not have been a happy tale.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/42768?ContentTypeID=1Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:28:51 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:9ccd7523-794c-4396-95fe-c363fe5d1045Mark Rowland<p>[quote user=&quot;Martin Atkinson&quot;]</p> <p>Its times like this that decide how much&nbsp;we really care for animals and it is something I&#39;d go the extra mile for whereas the 10th cat mauled pigeon this week is not.&nbsp; Take it to the bat rehab, or release it near where it was found and let nature take its course its a wild animal after all, if you cant be bothered its probably a PTS. It does pee me off however that members of the public rightly or wrongly think the buck stops with us, when they dump them on us,&nbsp;and that is where their responsibility ends&nbsp;as far as waifs and strays go, even getting them to take an uninjured fledgling back to whence it was found makes you sound like an uncaring person.&nbsp;Bat lyssavirus&nbsp;is a concern but I feel the risk is negligeable.</p> <div style="clear:both;"></div> <p>[/quote]</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Hows this for bare faced cheek.</p> <p>Some local practices direct wildlife casualties to my practice because we do exotics. Nice for them, no costs regarding vet or nurse time, no drug costs to them, even for pts and disposal. Im all for doing my fair share. in fact we do over and above our fair share, esp casualty raptors all for free. It is a bit rich however for other practices simply to divert these cases to me. What i also get are rspca cases going to other practices, those practices getting their nominal rspca fee and then &quot;referring &quot; them to me once the money runs out</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Le sigh&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/42765?ContentTypeID=1Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:44:45 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:4b209a95-229b-4c3c-a430-d9072ca2b33fEmma Middleton<p>Thanks Martin, I think I might try and release it as I can&#39;t get hold of the bat rehab man.&nbsp; We have just had a young wild bird (so far none of us can identify it!) brought in as well, so it&#39;s turning into a waifs and strays day <img src="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/emoticons/v2/Happy_smiley.png" alt="Happy" /></p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/42758?ContentTypeID=1Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:23:04 GMT146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:3d7bc957-cf9f-43d2-b4f4-20087ccfd08bMartin Atkinson<p>Its times like this that decide how much&nbsp;we really care for animals and it is something I&#39;d go the extra mile for whereas the 10th cat mauled pigeon this week is not.&nbsp; Take it to the bat rehab, or release it near where it was found and let nature take its course its a wild animal after all, if you cant be bothered its probably a PTS. It does pee me off however that members of the public rightly or wrongly think the buck stops with us, when they dump them on us,&nbsp;and that is where their responsibility ends&nbsp;as far as waifs and strays go, even getting them to take an uninjured fledgling back to whence it was found makes you sound like an uncaring person.&nbsp;Bat lyssavirus&nbsp;is a concern but I feel the risk is negligeable.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>