To suppress or not to suppress?

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Martin Jones — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:51:37 GMT

Sorted. Spayed as a pyo. Thanks to all (except the naturally cynical Niall )

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

hazelbentall — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:49:52 GMT

It's probably a normal amount of blood, but as I recall GSDs are a von Willebrands factor deficiency breed- might be worth checking before applying a sharp scalpel.....Pyo doesn't seem so likely for a first season- maybe vaginitis + normal season?- should resolve spontaneously. She doesn't sound a good prospect for breeding on any count.

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Niall Taylor — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:52:58 GMT

[quote user="mariette asselbergs"]

I am still of the times when most bitches got in heat and few were spayed. It sounds completely normal to me, some bitches can bleed a lot, very inconvenient! Can also become very temperamental or lethargic. Pyo seems improbable in a bitch that young, and yes, if it is all too much for the owner I would spay, not on a saturday night but as a normal bitch spay.

Good luck! Mariette

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Agree absolutely - this looks an entirely normal situation.

Niall

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

mariette asselbergs — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:18:09 GMT

Good luck! Mariette

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Laurence Webb — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:02:54 GMT

[quote user="Martin Jones"]I'm really just wondering what delvosteron would do to a uterus already on the turn, and whether anybody had had the chance to find out.....[/quote]Yes, I've found out. Still they wanted it spayed at some point anyway. Just not as an emergency at 7mths old.

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Anthony Todd — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:34:11 GMT

[quote user="Mark Holmes"]Run past me again why you don't spay mid season? Not something I aim to do but have done and its no more challenging than normal. Certainly less so than a caesar/spay for example.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly, or is it a potential stud bitch [temperament sounds very suitable....].

Of course they'll take it back to their "own vet" when the holiday finishes anyway so do it quick!

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Mark Holmes — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:36:16 GMT

Run past me again why you don't spay mid season? Not something I aim to do but have done and its no more challenging than normal. Certainly less so than a caesar/spay for example.

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Ian Mostyn — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:19:43 GMT

[quote user="Martin Jones"]I'm really just wondering what delvosteron would do to a uterus already on the turn, and whether anybody had had the chance to find out.....

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Don't forget you have to use the full bottle now then discard - expensive option to try it...

Ian

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Martin Jones — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:17:01 GMT

[quote user="Evelyn Barbour-Hill"]

Do nothing yet?

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My general sentiments, although I'm not sure these days that the art of masterly inactivity adequately placates the cascade, VDS or dear old Boiled Cabbage.

I'm really just wondering what delvosteron would do to a uterus already on the turn, and whether anybody had had the chance to find out.....

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:33:09 GMT

[quote user="Martin Jones"]Thoughts? Alternative regimes?[/quote]

Do nothing yet?

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Dagmar Steele — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:03:34 GMT

hmmm, I have used Aglepristone in Pyos with mixed outcome BUT they were all your average Pyo occuring about six weeks after heat or so. This bitch is currently in heat which means things might be very different. I have a colleague who used it in a bitch that had rather bloody than mucous discharge, this one started to bleed and never stopped until it was put down (Surgery no option in this case). The bleeding just got stronger from day to day, it was a Rottweiler and there was certainly a lot of blood coming out of this dog... So as a word of warning I would suggest talking to the manufacturer first before treating with Aglepristone in this case.

My approach would be antibiotics and close monitoring and then spay after heat as I would expect problems during the next heat again.

Re: To suppress or not to suppress?

Mark Hedberg — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:09:44 GMT

There was a lovely article in the last vet times about aglepristone, 2 mismating doses 24 hrs apart if it's a pyo apparently fixes it.