CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Tim Cheyne — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:05:37 GMT

"The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease." (Voltaire).
That was certainly true in the distemper/'Hard Pad'/CVH epidemic of the late forties and early fifties when there were poor diagnostic facilities, no effective antisera, only a few dogs vaccinated with the Field Distemper method (and that was found to break down in the absence of boosters), and difficulty in obtaining antibiotics to treat the secondaries.

On to the market came rubber capped ampoules of a vaguely described pinkish injectable sterile solution called something like 'XF100". Clutching at straws many vets tried the injection and inevitably a proportion of dogs recovered. To the best of my knowledge there were no trials and no peer review to establish whether or not this product was really effective. The method of Dr.De La Torre is in a similar situation; it might well be effective but more supportive evidence is needed.

Tim.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Claire McConnell — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:40:48 GMT

I would definately be keen to see some peer reviewed papers on this. I understand you do not need rsearch for your own cases but if it really works so well, spread the word through solid research to present.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:40:50 GMT

Hello Cristopher, thanks for replying. That`s what we are starting doing . We `re trying to show to all our coleagues our effective and eficient treatment to cure distemper.

Regards,

Sergio de la Torre
UNLP 1981
MENDOZA
ARGENTINA
www.drdelatorre.com.ar

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Christopher Saul — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:18:49 GMT

[quote user="Sergio De La Torre"]we don`t need to do controlled trials. with this treatment you can cure distemper or cure distemper.
In 30 years I can tell you that we have cured more than 3.000 patients with disgnosticated disemper. And we have also cured other diseases with this treatment like canine hepatitis ( which symptoms are the same of canine distemper and also can be confused with distemper symtoms; viral gastroenteritis ; parvo and
hundreds of papiromatosis on puppies ). I affirm it : distemper is cured. [/quote]

If you are so certain of success, why not submit your data for scrutiny and publication in peer-reviewed journals?

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Tue, 31 May 2011 23:25:04 GMT

Julian :

I apreciate your excperience and I`m grateful.

We `ve been practicing this treatment since 20 years ( with veterinary medicine ) and it gives us a 90 % efficiency and success.

Thanks for telling your experiences. I didn`t know about the treatment with Maxagloban. It is very intresting.

And I say again to the our coleagues: with this treatment distemper is cured, too.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Mon, 30 May 2011 23:19:34 GMT

Thanks for replying Evelyn :

The cases we have treated with this treatment ( with antibiotics of veterinary use ) are hundreds. we don`t need to do controlled trials. with this treatment you can cure distemper or cure distemper.
In 30 years I can tell you that we have cured more than 3.000 patients with disgnosticated disemper. And we have also cured other diseases with this treatment like canine hepatitis ( which symptoms are the same of canine distemper and also can be confused with distemper symtoms; viral gastroenteritis ; parvo and
hundreds of papiromatosis on puppies ). I affirm it : distemper is cured.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Mon, 30 May 2011 23:17:55 GMT

Andrew a hundred of patients, ( not to say thousands ) affirm that this treatment cured distemper ( with antibiotics of veterinary use ) . Anecdotal or not anecdotal you can come to visit us when you want . It is not casual that we have from 20 to 30 dayly patients ( in which 5 of them have distemper) .

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Julian Earl — Thu, 19 May 2011 20:43:46 GMT

[quote user="Richard Carter"]

Well having seen the swing the profession has done regarding vitamins from giving (vitamins are good) to not giving (vitamin supplimentation is useless and over treating) to giving again for general debilitation (the webinar 2 weeks ago promoting B12 weekly injections) why not. Distemper is a nasty disease and the only thing that possibly may give it a chance is keeping the dog well enough until the immune system can kick in. Any openings for hyper-immune serum anyone?

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Sorry I haven't been through the whole thread yet but when I worked in Leeds as a lad and Burnley as a vet many, many moons ago, I used to see loads of distemper cases. We would have an outbreak every three to four years, usually in winter IIRC, and sometimes saw ten cases in a day.

Cutting a long story short, fifty per cent would survive but we used Maxagloban early on in cases and I never had one of those not survive; I have no statistics however. Interestingly (Ithink anyway!) in some rare cases the facial tics and seizures would develop before other systemic signs. Also, notably, in one outbreak we had twelve (out of maybe a hundred) cases in vaccinated dogs. Yup, they were reported.

Anyway in response to Richard, Maxagloban seemed to work well if used early.

<Edit: why on earth would anyone give steroids to a dog with distemper? Sounds like a recipe for disaster - I'm not surprised they die.>

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Thu, 19 May 2011 20:07:07 GMT

As far as I can make out, the thesis is that you use Terramycin LA to cause a severe reaction and a big granuloma (bubo). This releases oodles of histamine and the histamine kills the virus.

OK, we've established that the evidence is merely anecdotal, he hasn't done controlled trials, and all that.

Are you all just going to leave it like that, or are those of you who know heaps about histamine, immunology, virology and all that stuff going to give the idea a little theoretical consideration and maybe engage in a little theoretical discussion?

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Andrew Kent — Thu, 19 May 2011 09:06:30 GMT

Being 'specialists' and having anecdotal evidence does not prove a treatment!

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Wed, 18 May 2011 23:34:34 GMT

Niall, believe it or not ...

We´re specialists in this disease ( that´s why we have a lot of cases ). With this tratment distemper can be cured.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Wed, 18 May 2011 23:32:11 GMT

Hello Mark. Thanks for replying. We don´t need lab analysis or lab diagnostics. Everyday, we work with distemper cases. I use the Oxytet LA at least in 5 dayly patients . I see It everyday . We use it on parvo and in every viral diseases (including papillomatosis).

With this treatment distemper can be cured.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Wed, 18 May 2011 23:25:22 GMT

Thanks for replying Stephen. You`re right. This treatment is cheaper and it really works.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Wed, 18 May 2011 23:23:12 GMT

Richard we do this treatmet with antibiotics from veterinary use.

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Sergio De La Torre — Wed, 18 May 2011 23:15:30 GMT

Hello Maritte. Thanks for replying . The inflamatory reaccion and its unspecified mechanisms produces the immunocompetent reaction . We don`t have to get shocked. We don´t have to touch the injected site . It lasts for 2 or 3 days (in some cases a week). It is worse and more painful the death caused by the nervous phase of distemper (meningitis), which is the result for using NSAIDS AND CORTICOSTEROIDS.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Niall Taylor — Wed, 18 May 2011 10:33:24 GMT

[quote user="Sergio De La Torre"]Hello Nial , thanks for replying. Try to go to a pet society and you will see a lot of cases of distemper and you will see the results of this treatment. I have been working with 3 distemper cases per day for 20 years and it really works. [/quote]

So, no actual research then. Why am I not surprised?

Niall

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Mark Hedberg — Wed, 18 May 2011 06:41:46 GMT

How often do you get abcesses from the oxytet la? Also, do you have a lab confirm the diagnosis of distemper?

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Wed, 18 May 2011 00:32:11 GMT

Hello Andrew. Thanks for replying. We`re specialists on distemper . We have from two to four daily patients with distemper and we have 90 % of success with our treatment. If you want I can send you a video showing this.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Wed, 18 May 2011 00:30:28 GMT

Hello Rob, thaks for replying. I believe in some homeopathic treatment. But our treatment is better than that.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Wed, 18 May 2011 00:26:55 GMT

Hello Alex: Thanks for replying. We`re specialists on distemper . We have from two to four daily patients with distemper and we have 90 % of success with our treatment. If you want I can send you a video showing this.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Tue, 17 May 2011 23:59:21 GMT

Hello Richard. Thanks for replying. We use OXITETRACICLYN from Pfizer laboratories It works as a antibiotic and like inmuno-stimulant due to it produces inflammation where the injeccion has been put. People don`t know its doble function but it is better than other antibiotics. Hope you can use it and try it.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Tue, 17 May 2011 23:39:19 GMT

Hello Wynne. Thanks for replying. It`s because our tratment it´s cheaper than virbagen-admittadely label and it is more efective than those. And it doesn´t have side effects.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Sergio De La Torre — Tue, 17 May 2011 23:33:19 GMT

Hello Nial , thanks for replying. Try to go to a pet society and you will see a lot of cases of distemper and you will see the results of this treatment. I have been working with 3 distemper cases per day for 20 years and it really works.

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Stephen Courtney — Tue, 17 May 2011 21:19:58 GMT

[quote user="Hannah Wynne Richards"]

What's wrong with suggesting virbagen? It's an anti viral agent-it's not licensed for distemper so you have to tell owners it's non-licensed, and therefore unproven, but there's a logical reason why it should work

Wynne

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Why? Seems to be that interferon is a treatment in search of a disease......I think in our hospital there has been some anecdotal benefit in parvo cases but it is really hard to know if it has made any real difference, except to the bill! All the other indications for it - faucitis and FIP spring most readily to mind - have been disappointing to say the least!

Re: CANINE DISTEMPER CAN BE CURED

Richard Carter — Tue, 17 May 2011 15:06:35 GMT

There are also a few cures given by the indigenous people in Zululand which involves feeding the dog roasted/ cremated testicles (cannot remember if they had to be from a certain species) and a few herbs which also had a reputation for working!!