bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Evelyn Barbour-Hill — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:01:03 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

[quote user="Mark Hedberg"]What about radiosurgery?

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I listen to Real Radio whilst operating. Is that what you mean?

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It seems a shame to follow that. But anyway. I use radiosurgery a lot, mainly because there isn't the tissue drag you have with even the sharpest scalpel, but also for haemostasis. I use it for the skin incision for a cat spay, because the instrument's there and it's what I'm used to. (And I save the price of a blade ) Seriously (for a moment) I do recommend it.

Feller came round to me trying to sell me a laser (for 22 big ones as I recall). The whole sales talk revolved round palate resection and declawing cats. I figured I could manage without.

To be fair to the original advertiser (I'm feeling really magnanimous tonight): if you made an amateur video of any spay technique, it would probably look a right faff to everyone else.

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Michael Woodhouse — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:42:25 GMT

[quote user="Mark Hedberg"]What about radiosurgery?

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I listen to Real Radio whilst operating. Is that what you mean?

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Mark Hedberg — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:56:03 GMT

What about radiosurgery?

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Bob Russell — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:18:58 GMT

Faf was exactly my first impression. Q good if you are trying to impress someone from the RCVS but otherwise pointless for this procedure.

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Mark Holmes — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:10:17 GMT

Cleaner x

Quicker x

Safer ?......x

My impression was what a faf? Ifyou are try ing to market your lazer to the OVH market then you are going to struggle. Sorry.

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Andrew Kent — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:08:57 GMT

To even consider using a laser for a procedure such as this is nothing more than a gimmick, and to me the amount of tissue trauma looks much greater than conventional methods.

I'd be modernising my choice of suture material before considering this kind of technology - can't remember when I last stitched a midline with catgut.

Interesting that the video was made by an endocrinologist rather than a surgeon!

Andy

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Bob Russell — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:01:36 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]

Do it flank. Faster, smaller hole and I rarely need a swab - unless I get that pesky blood vessel in the fat!

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That pesky blood vessel was put there by the great vet in the sky to tell you your incision is exactly in the right place!

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Arlo Guthrie — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:20:48 GMT

[quote user="robloxley"] You don't happen to be in the business of selling surgical lasers do you?![/quote]

Was thinking the 'zact same thing myself.

Would normally delete posts advertising something, but thought this looked like it might turn into an interesting discussion.

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Rob Loxley — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:36:33 GMT

[quote user="yaron mayer"]

Take a look at this video to see how laser surgery can make

Ovarian hysterectomy - cleaner, safer, and quicker.

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You don't happen to be in the business of selling surgical lasers do you?!

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Michael Woodhouse — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:26:34 GMT

Do it flank. Faster, smaller hole and I rarely need a swab - unless I get that pesky blood vessel in the fat!

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

jose targa — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:50:46 GMT

Good morning to everyone

We´ve got a CO2 laser in our practice (in Valencia-Spain), but we doesn´t use it for OHT!!!!!! the real advantages are limited, in my opinion, to a few kinds of procedures like shoft palate in bulldogs, hepatic surgery, entropion, and of course as a "cleaner" in neoplasic surgery...but not for all!!!

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Hannah Wynne Richards — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:58:32 GMT

Definitely not tempted by this video to buy a laser

Wynne

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Derek Copeland — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:53:36 GMT

I am sure lasers have their place but not sure if its in cat speys.Having watched the video not convinced the "cleaner, safer ,quicker "is the case here. certainly not reason to rush out and buy one and at risk of showing my ignorance of the action of lasers it actually looked quite destructive to the soft tissue compared with sharp disection.

Re: bloodless surgery, makes it easier - short video, is this your experience?

Andrew Mellor — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:49:55 GMT

I have just watched the video, quicker? i don't think so, and a huge wound, much prefer flank spay and rarely have any bleeding at all usually 1 dab with swab at end, 3-5 mins to perform , see this was a 3 min video but heavily editted, how well does the skin heal after being cut with a laser?