Thornit

Re: Thornit

Martin Jones — Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:00:41 GMT

[quote user="Rob Davis"]

[quote user="Martin Jones"]

Does it work? Ask your spaniel clients. They can't all be idiots, even if they're not quite so clever as us.

People who sit in judgement are usually shocked to find themselves judged.......

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I have no idea whether or not the stuff works, I was merely saying that the information which I read on it was a load of nonsense.

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Hence the tiny remainder of my post that you forgot, which was that the stuff seems more solid than its hype.

[quote user="Gillian Mostyn"]

Whether it anecdotally works is irrelevant - drug companies have to PROVE things work and PROVE they aren't toxic. Show me the evidence. Otherwise, I'd call it profiteering.

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Miss Betts would have LOVED you.

[quote user="Malcolm Ness"]

In the olden days we used to burn witches.

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The memory of which must bring a warm glow to your cockles.

Re: Thornit

Bob Russell — Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:59:10 GMT

Wow - I can now cure all my skin and ear cases - no more canine or feline itchy bums. No more scurf. I hope the nearby practices don't hear about it.

Re: Thornit

Malcolm Ness — Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:37:11 GMT

In the olden days we used to burn witches.

Most people wouild think that bad but in those days we didn't have pollution, or cancer or global warming or mythical Australian ear mites. Lots of people know this so it must be true.

Bring back witch burning!

Re: Thornit

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:55:12 GMT

To suggest that one vet in Australia has managed to discover a mite that has been missed by every other professional is ridiculous - and any product that sells itself on this fact therefore makes itself ridiculous. Whether it anecdotally works is irrelevant - drug companies have to PROVE things work and PROVE they aren't toxic. Show me the evidence. Otherwise, I'd call it profiteering.

Re: Thornit

Rob Davis — Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:22:59 GMT

[quote user="Martin Jones"]

Does it work? Ask your spaniel clients. They can't all be idiots, even if they're not quite so clever as us.

People who sit in judgement are usually shocked to find themselves judged.......

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I have no idea whether or not the stuff works, I was merely saying that the information which I read on it was a load of nonsense. Magnetic collars come into the same category - some people swear they work, I have no idea, but I do know that the information which comes with them is a load of bollocks. I have no particular problem with people trying these things as long as it does not cause any harm or prevent the patient from receiving appropriate conventional treatment.

Re: Thornit

Martin Jones — Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:11:49 GMT

Finally, a thread in which I can participate on equal terms.

Thornit may / may not be the best thing since sliced bread and in fact, may / may not cure cancer, West Nile Fever and AIDS (delete according to belief).

I freely admit to constantly writing it surreptitiously on a piece of paper and sliding it across the desk to spaniel owners. Many of them slide it back with the words, 'don't worry, we already have it' which you can interpret in either of two very different ways.

The product seems to be more solid than its hype and has been around since the year dot. Its continued existence through thick and thin, to finally rest in the hands of the redoubtable Miss Betts of Thornham (hence the name) and thence to her son (who is a little more technologically minded) speaks for its support. I remember, as a young vet in west Wales, ringing up for orders (it was that kind of practice) and spending an hour just listening to the lady, who could and would expound on every subject under the sun. Her opinion of the Royal College, which she charged with obstructing her livelihood, still brings tears (of joy) to my eyes. I was utterly heartbroken, after coming home from a travelling stint, to find that she had apparently died.

My understanding from clients is that it's a good ear cleaner, and certainly aids hair plucking in spans, and is also fairly good for feathered feet in water dogs, although an equal number swear by unperfumed athlete's foot powder. In neither case is it really attempting to re-invent the wheel, and some benefit isn't beyond the bounds. I certainly wouldn't use it as a treatment per se, and take great pains not to recommend it, but to mention its existence and to suggest an objective google search, and additionally to stress that it can't be used with any painful ear condition.

Does it work? Ask your spaniel clients. They can't all be idiots, even if they're not quite so clever as us.

People who sit in judgement are usually shocked to find themselves judged.......

Re: Thornit

Rob Davis — Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:54:16 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]or even seen a god before and after it was used[/quote]

It clearly comes recommended from on high!

I was once given some information on this by a client and thought it looked like a load of tosh, never tried using it.

Re: Thornit

Michael Woodhouse — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:24:37 GMT

I've had arguments/discussions with some of our shooting clients who think it's the best thing since sliced bread.

I've never prescribed it or even seen a god before and after it was used. People do swear by it. One of my bosses reminisces fondly about something called 'ZIB powder' that was supposedly the best thing going for ears - if only we could still get it.

Re: Thornit

Gillian Mostyn — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:22:50 GMT

Amazing what some people will believe and buy.