Antibiotics for ducks

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Gillian Mostyn — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:40:12 GMT

[quote user="bob lehner"]Tha sounds like out-and-out racism against avians ... and from a man currently busting a gut over some poxy charity cat with diabetes... stick up for ducks I say - they're great !![/quote]

Exactly what I was thinking.

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

bob lehner — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:57:51 GMT

[quote user="Martin Atkinson"]I find a broken neck the best cure for most poultry problems [/quote]

Tha sounds like out-and-out racism against avians ... and from a man currently busting a gut over some poxy charity cat with diabetes... stick up for ducks I say - they're great !!

To revert to the original question - what about trying duxycycline .. (...groan).

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Martin Atkinson — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:11:26 GMT

[quote user="Emily Nightingale"]

I had one at Christmas that the O (Mrs) presented a 7 week old with explosive diarrhoea, and ataxia. I dripped it (medial metatarsal vein ideal) and put it in a sling, gave it hydrotherapy in a bath and two days down the line when it wasnt improving the Mr came in, looked at the duck and exclaimed it had never been able to walk properly and Mrs had delusions of being able to save everything and had spent £150 on it to no avail. It was PTS at his request. He couldn't even have it back for " Christmas" due to withdrawal times of the AB's I had given it..

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I would say that is devotion above the call of line and duty Emily. Personally I find a broken neck the best cure for most poultry problems

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Michael Woodhouse — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:16:43 GMT

[quote user="Emily Nightingale"]I rang Elanco last week to ask them what their recommended withdrawal time for injectable Tylan was. I was in no uncertain terms (and in a slightly harsher headmistress tone than I was expecting!) that it is not recommended at all for use in poultry and to do so is contravening the terms of the data sheet.[/quote]

I have found similar from Elanco - they seem the least helpful drug company.

The BVA poster suggests .5ml per adult chicken/duck 1ml for turkeys - repeat after 48 hours.

Poster

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Emily Nightingale — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:59:44 GMT

[quote user="Michael Woodhouse"]I have injected the cattle form even though the data sheet says not to. Have you seen the poultry disease poster by the BVA?[/quote]

I rang Elanco last week to ask them what their recommended withdrawal time for injectable Tylan was. I was in no uncertain terms (and in a slightly harsher headmistress tone than I was expecting!) that it is not recommended at all for use in poultry and to do so is contravening the terms of the data sheet. But then they have to say that don't they.

I have used it though, in the past for Mycoplasma infections which mostly seem to present as URTIs. The withdrawal period for eggs was 7 days from the last day of tx.

Good luck with your duck. I think they are really challenging to treat. Tangentially speaking, I had one at Christmas that the O (Mrs) presented a 7 week old with explosive diarrhoea, and ataxia. I dripped it (medial metatarsal vein ideal) and put it in a sling, gave it hydrotherapy in a bath and two days down the line when it wasnt improving the Mr came in, looked at the duck and exclaimed it had never been able to walk properly and Mrs had delusions of being able to save everything and had spent £150 on it to no avail. It was PTS at his request. He couldn't even have it back for " Christmas" due to withdrawal times of the AB's I had given it..

Hope you have better luck than I did on the last one.

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Michael Woodhouse — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:31:08 GMT

I like Tylan for micoplasma -seems to [anecdotally] work better than Baytril. Available as a powder for solution. I have injected the cattle form even though the data sheet says not to. Have you seen the poultry disease poster by the BVA?

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

sasho gjorgjievski — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:54:03 GMT

oxytetracycline I think I'll give a good effect

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

sasho gjorgjievski — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:52:50 GMT

What problems have the duck?You can use more antibiotics.

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Marie Kubiak — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:47:45 GMT

Fluoroquinolones are mycoplasmacidal so good choice as long as this isn't a bird that is producing eggs for consumption.

I use 20mg/kg/day as a single dose or split into two smaller doses for at least 5 days. I would opt for oral baytril as long as the bird is clinically ok other than the mycoplasma as localised muscle necrosis is common with the injectable form. Other options for mycoplasma are Tylan or Lincospectin.

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Jackie Harvey-Knight — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:38:28 GMT

It was a duck with mycoplasma......a poultry expert friend of mine recommended Baytril 0.4ml IM every other day for 3 days.....would you agree with this?

Jackie.

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Marie Kubiak — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:24:41 GMT

What condition are you treating for?

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Jackie Harvey-Knight — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:29:42 GMT

Many thanks.

Re: Antibiotics for ducks

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:02:45 GMT

Not personally, but the following may be helpful:

Chlortetracycline has a vet-licensed preparation for ducks which may be useful if it is commercial 'ducks' you're looking to treat rather than a single 'duck'. (http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/Alpharma_Belgium_bvba/Aurofac_ACY-reg_ADs-_250mg_g_Granular_Premix_for_Medicated_Feeding_Stuff/-46702.html)

You'd have to register (currently free) to view, but http://www.wildandexotic.com/treatment/Any%20Avian/Antibiotic# contains a list of antibiotics that have been used in any avian species with dose rates and some comments (click 'toggle all dosages' near the top) - you could take your pick