Illness in two young rabbits

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Bob Russell — Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:23:57 GMT

Not heard from them since. I am quite suspicious that the tomato leaf consumption may be part of the problem but cannot find out just how toxic they are.

I will phone the owners on Monday - thanks for the reminder!

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Romain Pizzi — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:49:55 GMT

I would agree with Marie - It would be very unusual for a rabbit to present in a moribund state and die shortly therafter due to an acute E. cuniculi infection. While it could still be related to E. cuniculi, in my experience acute renal failure appears to be a relativly uncommon presentation. With almost 1/2 of all rabbits testing positive on serology, it may in many cases be an incidental finding, and one needs to keep looking for the diagnosis...

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Marie Kubiak — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:38:11 GMT

Unforunately rabbit 1 is endstage chronic disease with no specific indication of cause.

With no post-mortem there is nothing to guide you as yet so I would look at doing a thorough work-up on the second rabbit to try and narrow the differentials. Complete bloods plus E. cuniculi serology, with radiographs, would be a good starting point.

E.cuniculi is a fabulous catch-all but needs more investigation to assess potential significance. Renal disease is high on the list of differentials but not all renal disease is EC!

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

HMC — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:41:47 GMT

I have found several websites saying that tomato leaves are toxic to rabbits- but then helpfully just curtailing the advice at 'take rabbit to the vet' ("but I am the vet!?!"). I had to look up potato leaf toxicity in rabbits recently too.

One website names the following clinical signs of tomato leaf toxicity (rabbits were not mentioned, just dog, cat and horse):

Hypersalivation, inappetence, severe gastrointestinal upset, diarrhea, drowsiness, CNS depression, confusion, behavioral change, weakness, dilated pupils, slow heart rate.

How much tomato leaves did they eat?

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Bob Russell — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:50:36 GMT

No unfortunately not.

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Andre Escudeiro-Vieites — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:45:42 GMT

Managed to do a post-mortem?

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Vikki Halliday LLB — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:32:41 GMT

Oh and forgot to mention, yes at least 28 days Panacur, Baytril and colvasone/voren if any CNS signs, meloxicam if not. But may be worth getting a faecal sample done to to look for eimeria oocysts.

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Vikki Halliday LLB — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:31:04 GMT

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Re: Illness in two young rabbits

emerald — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:02:56 GMT

Also think E cuniculi DDx, 28 days course of panacur rabbit and baytril too.

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Gillian Mostyn — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:32:19 GMT

yes

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Bob Russell — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:13:52 GMT

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I have put it onto panacur so hopefully this is the answer. Not had wonderful results in the past. Thanks!

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Does anyone routinely add Baytril to the treatment regimen?

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Bob Russell — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:09:10 GMT

I have put it onto panacur so hopefully this is the answer. Not had wonderful results in the past. Thanks!

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Gillian Mostyn — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:24:51 GMT

ditto

Re: Illness in two young rabbits

Michael Woodhouse — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:52:26 GMT

e cuniculi?