EPI treatment

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Kirsten Simpson — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:26:05 GMT

How much does he get out of interest? Just so I can sound more informed when I ring the owner back! Is there a weight of dog per weight of pancreas ratio or just a whole pancreas per day?

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Bob Russell — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:21:33 GMT

Our local butcher has no problem supplying pig pancreas. We have a GSD on this - he actually now has a weight problem - he is overweight!!

He is on RC low fat and this - no other supplimentation.

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Rob Loxley — Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:01:11 GMT

[quote user="Laurence Webb"]Lypex (VetPlus) is in capsule form although these things tend to work better when mixed into the food as powder[/quote]

Though the stomach does a reasonably good job of mixing things up.

Not sure if there's any work in dogs looking at % inactivation of pancreatic enzymes given as powder (or straight pancreas) within the stomach. Certainly in humans the move seems to be towards enteric coating of enzyme microspheres within capsules so that the enzymes survive well into the duodenum, and slow release formulations for extended activity,

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Noweia — Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:36:27 GMT

You should be able to get pancreas as sweetbread either from an abbatoir or a good butcher. We have a couple of clients doing that.

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Kirsten Simpson — Sun, 13 Jun 2010 02:28:06 GMT

I thought that the Tryplase capsules had to be opened and sprinkled onto food and not given whole? I think this is half coming from the dog not keen to eat the powder sprinkled food and also that her £6k insurance (per condition) is getting near the max limit so she'll have to start paying for it and wants a cheaper alternative.

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Robert Wilson — Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:41:47 GMT

How about Tryplase capsules?

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Rob Smith — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:07:03 GMT

Anyone heard of salmonellosis?

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jamie winstone — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:00:28 GMT

I have a client who knows a farmer who has one of his own cattle slaughtered and who can apparently insist that all the offal is returned to him (not for resale) and thus the pancreas can be removed cut into small pieces, frozen and used as appropriate.

The dog is looking great and the cost of doing this is a fraction of Panzyme but I guess you must be pretty dedicated to saving money to do this.

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sophia guymer — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:55:34 GMT

[quote user="Utlendigur"]she just asked the local abbattoir...[/quote]

She is very lucky! Most abbattoirs, definately the ones locally here, won't give/sell pancreas. They reckon there is a law that forbits them to do so, just as they not allowed to sell me any tripe either. Liver and heart is not so much of a problem. I suppose it depends on where you live.

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Kirsten Simpson — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:49:36 GMT

How is that working out for her? I think if she wants to try it, I don't see why not, the only thing will be finding a regular source :/

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Utlendigur — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:10:07 GMT

One of my colleagues has a dog with EPI. She's started using fresh pancreas instead of pancrex - she just asked the local abbattoir...

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sophia guymer — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:17:47 GMT

just had a look at their site, don't think they will be any help as American company. unlikely to be shipping to England.

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sophia guymer — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:15:41 GMT

[quote user="Kirsten Simpson"] Durhams Pet Supplies online, but I can't find anything of that name[/quote]

I don't know the company as such, don't use it myself (do feed raw) but I think the company you are looking for is: Durham Pet Food.com www.durhampetfood.com

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Laurence Webb — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:25:50 GMT

Lypex (VetPlus) is in capsule form although these things tend to work better when mixed into the food as powder.

I've heard of using fresh pig's pancreas but you need to use large quantities of it to be effective. I suspect anyone selling it online is selling a dried form that will conveniently presented as...a powder. Which is what you're using already.