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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Are there any alternatives to topical treatment for pannus?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/30887/are-there-any-alternatives-to-topical-treatment-for-pannus</link><description> I&amp;#39;m not aware of any (other than subconjunctival depomedrone which would only be temporary). I have an owner who says he cannot put drops in his GSD&amp;#39;s eyes. I just want to be certain there are no alternatives before I have a conversation with him. I</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Are there any alternatives to topical treatment for pannus?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/243627?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2024 23:12:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a3fc2376-523b-45af-bc8c-f331d177caa1</guid><dc:creator>Michael Woodhouse</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote userid="8361" url="~/f/clinical-questions/30887/are-there-any-alternatives-to-topical-treatment-for-pannus/243569#243569"]Heard back from ophthalmologists. These can be surgically placed, last about a year but have to be ordered from the US. A very last resort&amp;nbsp;[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Cost very similar to cyclosporin drops for a year and can last 12-18 mths for KCS but up to 4 years in horses. They will supply you and simple to fit. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="https://gilgerlab.cvm.ncsu.edu/"&gt;https://gilgerlab.cvm.ncsu.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very helpful guy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Are there any alternatives to topical treatment for pannus?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/243620?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2024 12:52:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:db2969a6-0d50-4e68-af1b-68c592a3561c</guid><dc:creator>Sarah Wheadon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you. As I said, I was just checking a very specific question before I had a conversation wit the owner. I have now done this and they are duly motivated.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Are there any alternatives to topical treatment for pannus?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/243571?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 13:51:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:aa8ec361-936e-4f4f-9b09-7e8fa5a55a80</guid><dc:creator>Francisco Gomez</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Positive re-enforcement with super high value reward. My last recording with Dr Jahn suggested this at &lt;a  target='_blank'  href="https://audiovet.co.uk/cpd"&gt;https://audiovet.co.uk/cpd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However please let us know the reason. Even with the most uncooperative dogs we have managed to treat. In 2 years I don&amp;#39;t recall an owner who couldn&amp;#39;t do this, but ? Is the problem the dog behaviour? Just running away? Aggressive? Owner with osteoarthritis in their hands?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Are there any alternatives to topical treatment for pannus?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/243569?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 11:44:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:d91bdb03-f10d-4ffb-a612-ab390a7f594e</guid><dc:creator>Sarah Wheadon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote userid="12930" url="~/f/clinical-questions/30887/are-there-any-alternatives-to-topical-treatment-for-pannus/243538#243538"]SUb-corneal long0acting ciclosporin implants are mentioned on internet, I&amp;#39;m not sure how long these last, how effective they are, or if even available in UK.[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Heard back from ophthalmologists. These can be surgically placed, last about a year but have to be ordered from the US. A very last resort&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Are there any alternatives to topical treatment for pannus?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/243554?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2024 17:32:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:42536b26-b0eb-46ac-acd8-b66000208c37</guid><dc:creator>Sarah Wheadon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote userid="11249" url="~/f/clinical-questions/30887/are-there-any-alternatives-to-topical-treatment-for-pannus/243537#243537"]dog will go blind if her doesn&amp;#39;t try harder - tends to concentrate minds a bit[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Yes I have. We have had a full and frank discussion and they&amp;#39;re going to get a trainer and some Primula cheese involved.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Are there any alternatives to topical treatment for pannus?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/243538?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:59:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:390fa013-6199-4cf9-a429-0ba4184c0f70</guid><dc:creator>Beats</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;SUb-corneal long0acting ciclosporin implants are mentioned on internet, I&amp;#39;m not sure how long these last, how effective they are, or if even available in UK.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oral ciclosporin might or might not be effective to some degree? I found nothing on googling just now to say whether it would or wouldn&amp;#39;t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some types of eye drops are easier to apply than others, either practically speaking or becuase they don&amp;#39;t sting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Goggles to reduce UV light exposure might or might not be a consideration, though I can&amp;#39;t imagine would have much impact.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tips on how to put drops in that individual dog probably better chance of success than alternatives to drops I would imagine!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Are there any alternatives to topical treatment for pannus?</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/243537?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:39:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:479a3ac1-a872-44ac-9150-38a6a46e6171</guid><dc:creator>ian bates</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Sarah - maybe tell him the dog will go blind if her doesn&amp;#39;t try harder - tends to concentrate minds a bit......... &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>