PUPD input

RE: PUPD input

Stephen Butterton — Tue, 01 Nov 2022 17:57:45 GMT

Hi. I suspect this may be caused by DJD. I've seen a LOT of cases like this. Dilute urine in middle aged to older dogs, bloods and everything else as near as damn it normal. Start oral meloxicam with evening meal (other NSAIDs or other DJD treatments don't seem to work for some reason). After a few days retest an early am sample.

RE: PUPD input

Kadri Kääramees — Fri, 14 Oct 2022 10:11:52 GMT

Just a thought - maybe check the mouth and teeth of the 15yo? Sometimes a stray periodontal disease or tooth resorption one will start to drink more and in an older dog it might mean just urinating in because of the increased water intake.

RE: PUPD input

Jill Butterworth — Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:52:39 GMT

Borrow a dog gate for a day to separate them and make sure you've sampled the correct dog?

RE: PUPD input

Clive Ansell — Fri, 14 Oct 2022 06:19:26 GMT

[quote userid="10336" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/medicine/f/discussions/30452/pupd-input"]Would you consider running an SDMA?[/quote]

No. I've never found it that helpful. In fact it can be misleading, I have had cases where it is raised, and Urea, Crea, Phos are all wnl, so it is assumed based on a raised SDMA that early renal failure is present, then 18 months to 2 years later levels are unchanged, suggesting kidneys are not failing after all. Not a fan of SDMA.

[quote userid="10336" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/medicine/f/discussions/30452/pupd-input"]Benign neglect and recheck urine and bloods in a couple of months?[/quote]

Prefer to call it "monitoring for changes" and perfectly acceptable. Certainly if costs are an issue.

How is the dog otherwise? well inself? any weigth loss? stress related? dietary changes?

Maybe measure water intake ?

Maybe worth ruling out Addison's and Cushing's for completeness, but from what you've said so far it seems unlikely.

Maybe look for tumours? calcium levels?

The list of ddx's and possible investigations goes on for ever and can cost £100's or even £1000's.

RE: PUPD input

Noweia — Thu, 13 Oct 2022 20:07:43 GMT

Apparently you can give cats fluorescein to make their pee fluoresce better and differentiate which cat in a multicat household is spraying. Could work in these two?

RE: PUPD input

Michael Woodhouse — Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:49:58 GMT

Every year around this time we see pu dogs when the owners turn the heating on......

Try meds and see if it helps, is what I'd do