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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetsurgeon.org/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Lingually displaced permanent canines</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/f/clinical-questions/30206/lingually-displaced-permanent-canines</link><description> 
 Hi, this 6.5month old doggy was shown to me last week by one of my colleagues. The owner has been trying ball therapy but the tips of 304/404 look too caudal to slip rostral to 104/204. There are no depressions in the hard palate from the canines yet</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Lingually displaced permanent canines</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/235937?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 15:01:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:a30bcd6a-8bee-4ccc-a780-0eebb47bb94b</guid><dc:creator>Steve Leonard</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Makes perfect sense. Thanks again&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lingually displaced permanent canines</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/235936?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 13:23:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:7773af3f-7e37-44e6-b11b-ebae663602f7</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote userid="7619" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dentistry/f/expert-help/30206/lingually-displaced-permanent-canines/235933#235933"]is there an optimal time to arrange tooth shortening given that the canine hasn’t fully erupted?[/quote]
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;d want to wait until it&amp;#39;s fully erupted, so that I can see by how much it needs to be shortened.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lingually displaced permanent canines</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/235933?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:15:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:23537baf-48a4-4ed2-b6f3-2c51eb6f45cd</guid><dc:creator>Steve Leonard</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Evelyn, I will ask my colleague to discuss options with the owner.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is there an optimal time to arrange tooth shortening given that the canine hasn&amp;rsquo;t fully erupted?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lingually displaced permanent canines</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/235932?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:13:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:21317fd2-f926-4e34-bf38-f6be76c30b40</guid><dc:creator>Steve Leonard</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Norman, I&amp;rsquo;m a complete tool!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I send a link to your page to owners on at least 5-6 x a year, even showing them the images of the deciduous teeth on my computer terminal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I haven&amp;rsquo;t scrolled down past the deciduous section for possibly a couple of years so hadn&amp;rsquo;t realised just how comprehensive the information was for adult teeth.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it&amp;rsquo;s a fantastic resource and I hope my absent mindedness has at least prompted others to take a look.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lingually displaced permanent canines</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/235928?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:11:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:848799cc-64aa-4b8a-9af6-8163fa77d399</guid><dc:creator>Evelyn Barbour-Hill</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote userid="7619" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dentistry/f/expert-help/30206/lingually-displaced-permanent-canines"] I’d be interested to hear if you see LDC in permanent teeth without it being present in the deciduous canines [/quote]
&lt;p&gt;Yes, certainly.&lt;/p&gt;
[quote userid="7619" url="~/001/veterinary-clinical/small-animal/dentistry/f/expert-help/30206/lingually-displaced-permanent-canines"]I’m interested in options for cases like this [/quote]
&lt;p&gt;There are two options: tooth shortening and orthodontic movement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s the owner&amp;#39;s choice. I can do either but I always advocate tooth shortening.and funnily enough owners always agree.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tooth shortening: a couple of hours, done and dusted, bish bash bosh.&amp;nbsp; Check radiographs under moderate sedation two months and six months later.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Orthodontic movement takes weeks and weeks, may need lots of revisits, gets expensive, subjects dog &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;possibly &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;to distress or pain of having device glued in mouth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the case in the photo, the orthodontic movement required is quite complex, with three components: enlarging the space 103-4 and 203-4; moving 304 and 404 rostrally; angling 304 and 404 labially.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not sure from the photos, but I rather think this dog is mildly overshot. One of the possible causes&amp;nbsp; of&amp;nbsp; lingual diversion of canines occurring.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Make sure they don&amp;#39;t breed from it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Lingually displaced permanent canines</title><link>https://www.vetsurgeon.org/thread/235926?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 21:12:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">146601cc-3922-4be7-9974-7e1d4e45a66b:e2154704-9792-48f8-b913-194b6b06025f</guid><dc:creator>Norman Johnston</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Try this for info.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a  target='_blank'  href="https://www.dentalvets.co.uk/common-cases/lingually-displaced-canines"&gt;www.dentalvets.co.uk/.../lingually-displaced-canines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>